RE: Bible Teachings or Traditions of Men?
April 22, 2013 at 11:01 am
(This post was last modified: April 22, 2013 at 11:04 am by Drich.)
(April 20, 2013 at 10:16 pm)Alter2Ego Wrote: ALTER2EGO -to- EVERYONE:
The fabricated term "Godhead" goes hand in hand with the false trinity teaching that officially became the central doctrine of the "Christianized" Romans in the 4th century C.E. (The Christianized Romans later came to be known as the Roman Catholic Church.) The teaching of trinity that survives today began to be formalized in 325 CE/AD at the Council of Nicaea. On that occasion, about 300 Catholic bishops met with Roman Emperor Constantine"a non-Christian who was not baptized until he lay dying. Regarding Constantine's role in the formulation of the Trinity, the Encyclopedia Britannica states:
"Constantine himself presided, actively guiding the discussions, and personally proposed... the crucial formula expressing the relation of Christ to God in the creed issued by the council, [that Christ was] 'of one substance with the Father.' "
Keep in mind that Jesus died, was resurrected, and returned to heaven in 33 C.E. and that this idea that would later evolve into the trinity did not officially become "Christian" dogma until 381 C.E.--more than 300 years after Jesus Christ left the earthly scene. Also keep in mind that the idea of trinity was the philosophy of apostate "Christianized" Romans who later came to be known as Roman Catholics. But most important, keep in mind that the ROMANS who executed Jesus--prior to adopting Christianity as the state religion--had a long history of polytheism (worship of many gods). It was therefore a simple matter for the Christianized Romans aka Roman Catholics to graft various pagan/false teachings into their version of Christianity. One such teaching became the "Christian" version of trinity or worship of a triune/triad (three-in-one) god.
Ahhh Mormon.
If you are Mormon then why do you claim the title of Christian? Doesn't your prophet superceed the words of Christ?
(April 21, 2013 at 1:11 am)ThomM Wrote:(April 7, 2013 at 1:01 am)Drich Wrote: The trinitarian doctrine is a teaching or compilation of scripture that identifies God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. While the word it self has nothing to do with bible passages the core message is firmly rooted in scripture. It's kinda like calling The Prayer Jesus taught us in Luke 11 the Lord's prayer. The bible Does not say it is the Lord's prayer, it is just a 'religious/doctrinal' identification of a scriptural teaching. Just because the bible does not specifically say it is the Lord's Prayer does not mean the Lord did not teach us to pray this prayer.
Hell Fire. Is Real and Scripture tells us it is eternal, and that it was stoked specifically for lucifer and his followers, meaning demons (not for us.) Although Hell fire may be eternal it does not mean our souls will be or rather the very delicate nature that defines our sanity (or makes us who we are) is garanteed. We all have our breaking points, once our grip or controled over our minds is gone/consumed by the present torment, and prospect of eternal Hell fire, then 'we' cease to be. Meaning even if some part of us is in Hell for eternity 'we' (our consciousness) will be consumed. That is what is referred to as the second death.
My turn to ask a question are you J/W or Mormon?
Mark 9:48 and Isa 66:24 (Where the fire is never quenched and the worm will not die.)
Again - sorry - but the BIBLE is not a source of truth - so to claim that hell is real is equivalent to claiming that the earth is a flat circle - as the bible says
The word "scripture" simply means a writing or story - and the bible is clearly a bunch of fairy tales - religious MYTH and LEGEND - and does not even IMPLY truth - since most of it is not
As far as the Trinity - it is a creation of the catholic church and has no reality - since their god has no proven reality as well. Passages from the bible itself contradict the teaching about the trinity - clearly.
If this is true for you then what is the point of discussion with me?
If your 'goto' is to discount the bible then know you have forfeit the conversation with a biblically based Christian. I have no other choice but to shake the dust from my feet and move on to someone elses.