RE: Can you ever believe that there is no God
April 23, 2013 at 8:06 pm
(This post was last modified: April 23, 2013 at 8:08 pm by Simon Moon.)
(April 23, 2013 at 7:30 pm)Dawud Wrote: Apophena's lovely post is great and I agree that they weren't promoting atheism for atheism's sake - I never thought that.
It's just that the spreading if it for the aim for the good of society in such a violent way is proof that people can do bad things cos they think spreading atheism is important. I don't think Stalins slaughter of the religious was representative of atheists hence it is not a tu quoque upon atheism: Im not trying to disprove atheism - just prove what you have said "communists were reacting to what they perceived to be a threat to the good of society, namely religion." In his attack on religion he attacked the belief in God as a bad thing.
I don't think he was just some evangelical atheist - dont worry.
Read what I say - bit what you think I'll say.
I just try to open your mind to the possibility that someone might do something bad because they want to spread atheism - but still you'll deny this:
I get it!
No, you don't get it. And I know longer have any hope that you will.
Stalin wasn't trying to spread atheism, he was trying to spread Communism.
He was replacing the bad dogma of an infallible 'god' with the bad dogma of the infallible 'State'.
You actually didn't understand Apophena's post one bit.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
