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Poll: Are you for or against the separation of church and state?
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Are you for or against the separation of church and state?
RE: Are you for or against the separation of church and state?
A troublesome concept for the afflicted either way. If one claimed that cold was just a default state to which heat could be added - in te context of a creation and especially as applied to sin one would have to first accept that this comparison leads to the question - I see, so defaults existed that god had no hand in creating, merely adding some extra sauce?

On the other hand, if one wishes to maintain that by creating heat cold was poofed into existence simultaneously the same comparison with sin would leave us with no choice but to accept that in creating the good "the bad" was poofed into existence (though perhaps not intentionally)

So what do we have here, between these two running gags? A god which made modifications to an existing default (less impressive than they would hope for) or an incompetent god who unintentionally created the very thing it abhorred in it's failed attempt to create the thing it desired. Or (we could just call our apologist a bullshitter) a god which created both the good and the bad - and why the hell are we trying to weasel our way out of this anyway..it;s fucking god after all? They can have any of them.

The sad truth, is that the faithful are rarely satisfied with the things they've pigeonholed their gods into...and this might be why they have been changing them since they were first uttered into existence.
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RE: Are you for or against the separation of church and state? - by The Grand Nudger - April 24, 2013 at 3:48 pm

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