A challenge about women and marriage in Islam

[Dragonetti]

That's the point of an arranged marriage. It's arranged by parents/guardians, and those in said arrangement may choose to go along with it, or deny it, with associated consequences for either action.

I don't call people pedophiles unless they have pedophilia... simply marrying a child does not state precisely what that entails. Given that most arranged marriages are for sociopolitical or economic[ reasons: fucking each other in an arranged marriage is often quite irrelevant to the intentions of modern-day arranged marriages. In the past, just about every marriage a prince and a princess underwent was one arranged by their parents, and the peasant class did not even posses the ability to marry one another.

One does not have to fuck someone in marriage At least... not anymore


The child can refuse, but there are consequences for doing so (parents angry with them, etc), just as if the child did something the parents did not want them to do.

It's not forced unless it is, and once it is forced it's an abuse case. Simple distinction.

So would it not be simpler just to outlaw sex with 9 year olds? There are a lot more adults who want to sexually abuse 9 year olds out there than there are 9 year olds wanting to have sex, I'm guessing.

The options are basically put in place a law which allows men to marry 9 year olds which has been proven to also give men much more of an opportunity to abuse 9 year olds, this is for the benefit of who? Those horny 9 year olds that people on this forum seem to believe exist who are mature and adult enough to have sex and give birth perfectly fine.
Or do you think just maybe it might be that sex offenders who want to have sex with 9 year olds whether they are willing or not would benefit more from this law?

Is the argument actually that I'm being unfair in supporting a law because it forces 9 year olds to not have sex even if they want it?

Remember this isn't about whether or not some 9 year olds should have sex it's about whether an adult man should legally be able to marry a 9 year old girl.

Also, if the child refuse. This is usually disgraces the family's name. The child is then ostracized from their family or even killed. And, most children at this age barely understand the concept of sex. I also do not see the child not being rape in some societies for denying sex.

The child is treated as property, as the groom usually has to pay the bride's father. No one should be treated as property, female or male.

All said and done. This is fucked up!