RE: A challenge about women and marriage in Islam
April 29, 2013 at 3:47 am
(This post was last modified: April 29, 2013 at 4:01 am by paulpablo.)
You say beating happens in western countries, it doesn't happen within the law.
Also it isn't under californian law that a 9 year old can be married, they removed the age of consent to be determined when the time comes for it needing to be determined but I seriously don't think a 9 year old has ever got married in california, i could be wrong but seriously doubt it.
And the Islamic system strictly speaking is based on the quran, the quran says the husband can beat the wife if he fears arrogance from her, no mention of what she should do if she fears arrogance from him, no mention of tapping with a stick, which doesn't constitute beating or scourging as is mentioned in the quran.
This is precisely what I mean when I say you view Islamic laws in the notion of a fantasy world where people will follow all of the rules and they will never be corruptible, but when you speak of western laws you just say "the 9 year old will have sex anyway, women get beaten anyway, the 10 year old will get pregnant anyway"
so can you see the problem with this? Whatever laws or systems I say are better than Islamic laws, for example not marrying 9 year olds and not beating them, you say "they will do it anyway" But when I argue that under islamic law children are forced into marriages, pulled out of education, become pregnant, you say this isn't islamic so I'll just use your argument, in countries where Islamic law is put in place "they do it anyway" as you say.
It is the Islamic laws that allow them to just do this type of thing anyway, and what makes it worse than the western laws is that they do it to 9 year old girls, and they can legally beat them following the quran.
And as you have been repeatedly shown, a lot of these horny 9 year olds out there you imagine exist, don't exist. Statistically speaking a lot of these 9 year olds don't just "do it anyway"
You basically aren't arguing against fundamentals of the systems I mention you are just saying they will do it anyway to whatever laws I support, people murder anyway it doesn't mean there shouldn't be a law in place against it.
Also it isn't under californian law that a 9 year old can be married, they removed the age of consent to be determined when the time comes for it needing to be determined but I seriously don't think a 9 year old has ever got married in california, i could be wrong but seriously doubt it.
And the Islamic system strictly speaking is based on the quran, the quran says the husband can beat the wife if he fears arrogance from her, no mention of what she should do if she fears arrogance from him, no mention of tapping with a stick, which doesn't constitute beating or scourging as is mentioned in the quran.
This is precisely what I mean when I say you view Islamic laws in the notion of a fantasy world where people will follow all of the rules and they will never be corruptible, but when you speak of western laws you just say "the 9 year old will have sex anyway, women get beaten anyway, the 10 year old will get pregnant anyway"
so can you see the problem with this? Whatever laws or systems I say are better than Islamic laws, for example not marrying 9 year olds and not beating them, you say "they will do it anyway" But when I argue that under islamic law children are forced into marriages, pulled out of education, become pregnant, you say this isn't islamic so I'll just use your argument, in countries where Islamic law is put in place "they do it anyway" as you say.
It is the Islamic laws that allow them to just do this type of thing anyway, and what makes it worse than the western laws is that they do it to 9 year old girls, and they can legally beat them following the quran.
And as you have been repeatedly shown, a lot of these horny 9 year olds out there you imagine exist, don't exist. Statistically speaking a lot of these 9 year olds don't just "do it anyway"
You basically aren't arguing against fundamentals of the systems I mention you are just saying they will do it anyway to whatever laws I support, people murder anyway it doesn't mean there shouldn't be a law in place against it.
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