Italian Defence Minister Ignazio La Russa on the crucifix in the schools

[Autumnlicious]

*edited, I accidently posted before I was done writing it >_<*

I never did get why the machine used to torture people to death was taken as a symbol for the faith.
They should have stuck with the fishes, much less divisive.

As Bill hicks said 'If jesus came back the last thing he'd want to see is a crucifix'

I have never, nor will I ever, understand this. To wear a murder torture weapon around your neck and believe it makes you closer to your god? Freaky.

I also never understood why so many religious folk purport that crucifixion was such a unique way for the J-Man to die. It was common practice, so he wasn't special in the regard either.

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Crucifixion is hardly an immediate process... most people hang on for <see chart for ~ how many days (in the shade) a person can probably live without water: http://www.survivaltopics.com/survival/h...out-water/ > before dehydration kills them. In the sunlight... it is much faster, and the skin might also suffer sunburns. So crucifixion rapidly depletes a person's hydration level... through constant exposure to the sun, without water.

In the Bible... the Romans supposedly nailed jesus' wrists and feet to the cross... so he would have been bleeding out most of his water as well, as water in his body was being rushed to remake the blood being lost. He had also been cut around the head by a 'crown of thorns' (and the body bleeds rather profusely from the head)... He was crucified with a mere two others on a hill (with no protection from the sun) in a hot middle-eastern country... so I think it is rather silly to think he survived three days. The bible also seems to think that he was sentenced without a court, which is just another ridiculous thing about this little story...

And I'm gonna go drink some more water now

Crucifixion, if the arms are at an angle between 60* and 70* of the vertical, will keep a person alive for a long period of time. However, it if is greater or less than, the pressure on the chest will rapidly exhaust the hyper expanded diaphragm and the convicted will suffocate.

Shock (including hypervolumic due to blood loss), blood loss, sepsis and fat and other embolisms can all contribute to an agonizing death on the cross. I think it is safer to say that Christ would've died from blood loss and sepsis than dehydration. The loss of blood pressure and lack of oxygen is far quicker to act that dehydration. And don't take time in the Bible too literally - I've noticed it is rather mutable.

And no - you cannot make blood that fast. It is more likely blood loss - all that water would've been absorbed to keep his blood plasma fluidic and the rest of him hydrated, but making blood to carry oxygen? No.

[1]http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=463638
[2]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucifixion