(May 6, 2013 at 11:38 pm)Polaris Wrote:(May 4, 2013 at 9:52 am)pocaracas Wrote: You know, Evolution has been proven to be real, and yet...
And why should the existence of science disprove the supernatural?
There have been prophets for many thousands of years before there was anything resembling a scientist in this world. The world was once lousy with prophets and seers and magicians and ghosts and monsters and gods. One of the reasons it was once so easy to believe in such things is because, when you might never stray more than a few miles beyond your home village in your entire life, that left the entire rest of the world pretty much entirely unknown to you. You could accept these things because you understood that your tiny, sequestered existence certainly did not feature all there might be to experience in the world. So, when a priest told tales of wrathful gods and angels, they sounded plausible to the rubes of the world.
You would expect that, if there was anything to even one of these tales, that the emergence of science would fortify, rather than negate, them. You would expect that science would examine the sun closely to find that it was being pulled across the sky in a golden chariot. You would expect to find the physical fingerprints of the wrathful god which moved mountains or oceans with giant earthquakes. Even if you allow for the idea that God could never be observed directly, there would be direct physical proof that phenomena attributed directly to God was, indeed, the direct and undeniable result of him physically interacting with the world and altering it to his whims. The Gods of the ancient world never hid from men, never tried to cover their tracks or rule entirely from the shadows. Certainly, the God of the Bible never had to have his followers justify his existence with apologetics. It was taken for granted by his followers that he was a direct, physical force affecting their lives in ways they certainly thought they could directly measure if only they had the tools.
Instead, every time science encroaches on religious claims, science comes out on top. The sun does not travel across our sky, but vice-versa, and it's because of gravity, not because it is pulled by a golden chariot. Earthquakes are the product of plate tectonics, not the jealous vengeance of a deity. If these claims had any veracity to start with, science would be verifying rather than debunking them, and the religious of today would not have to waste so much energy on theology and apologetics in an effort to move their gods safely beyond the reach of this mortal threat.
Science needs not disprove the supernatural, because the supernatural is nothing but creative ignorance. For the supernatural to be disproven, it would have actually had to prove something in the first place. It would have to actually be an answer to some question. All it is, and all it has ever been, is a gap in knowledge which has been papered over so that it looks legitimate. Supernatural claims are not deserving of honest inquiry, and those who attempt to equivocate them with things we actually know are nothing but frauds.