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A thought never had
May 15, 2014 at 4:23 pm
So I never thought about it much, growing up in a christian home, never saw it, never noticed it. Guess I should'a been looking harder.
Remember the story of Lucifer, perhaps we got it wrong. Perhaps he wasn't evil. Perhaps he'd simply had enough of god being a bully, a jerk, an murder. Perhaps since before he became 'satan' there was no hell.
Maybe we got it wrong, maybe after Lucifer saw the mind games god was playing with adam (maybe Lucifer knew gods plan, perhaps god bragged about what was to happen)
Perhaps the story was changed to make him appear to be the bad guy (wouldn't be the first time someone spun an innocent person out to be evil)
Perhaps when he stood up to god, god being a bullying jerk fucked over Lucifer. Perhaps Lucifer was the good guy this entire time, and was punished for standing up . . .
After all god has been the one doing all the killing, satan is gods scapegoat, his fall man.
Thoughts?
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RE: A thought never had
May 15, 2014 at 4:27 pm
It is all fictional, so technically one can interpret it any way one wishes.
The authors might not be too happy with the way people are interpreting their works, but they should have written a better, more believable plot.
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RE: A thought never had
May 15, 2014 at 4:30 pm
I think that Satan is made up, so applying motives to him is rather pointless. The same with the biblical God. I think Atheists give waaaay too much credence to these stories by assuming that such fictional characters even have a motive.
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RE: A thought never had
May 15, 2014 at 4:31 pm
(May 15, 2014 at 4:27 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: It is all fictional, so technically one can interpret it any way one wishes.
The authors might not be too happy with the way people are interpreting their works, but they should have written a better, more believable plot.
Of course it's all rubbish BUT christians often take it seriously, so hypothetically is just fun to ponder.
I don't know
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RE: A thought never had
May 15, 2014 at 4:40 pm
When reading the biblical stories it always struck me that the Devil was more likely the real good guy of the story than God.
Very little of the Christian story actually held up to scrutiny and there is serious confusion about the whole hell issue. It appears that most Christians are not aware that Satan doesn't run hell - he is a captive there so the only one left that could actually have made it, and currently running it, is God.
That is seriously weird.
I've heard people describe the biblical God as a benign dictator. I see nothing benign.
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RE: A thought never had
May 15, 2014 at 4:48 pm
You could easily interpret Satan as the better person, as long as you don't take the book's word for it that Yahweh is a good person. Actions speak louder than words, and Yahweh's actions don't speak well of him.
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RE: A thought never had
May 15, 2014 at 5:57 pm
(May 15, 2014 at 4:48 pm)Chad32 Wrote: You could easily interpret Satan as the better person, as long as you don't take the book's word for it that Yahweh is a good person. Actions speak louder than words, and Yahweh's actions don't speak well of him.
Tell me what Satan did that makes him a good guy.
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RE: A thought never had
May 15, 2014 at 5:59 pm
(May 15, 2014 at 5:57 pm)Lek Wrote: Tell me what Satan did that makes him a good guy.
He stood up to the corporate dick.
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RE: A thought never had
May 15, 2014 at 6:00 pm
(May 15, 2014 at 5:59 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: (May 15, 2014 at 5:57 pm)Lek Wrote: Tell me what Satan did that makes him a good guy.
He stood up to the corporate dick.
Not only is he evil, but he's stupid too.
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RE: A thought never had
May 15, 2014 at 6:03 pm
(May 15, 2014 at 6:00 pm)Lek Wrote: Not only is he evil, but he's stupid too.
Yes, I believe we have already established that god, the corporate dick is evil.
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