(May 10, 2013 at 10:54 am)Simsim Wrote:(May 9, 2013 at 10:06 pm)A_Nony_Mouse Wrote: There is science on one side and on the other side there is philosophy, metaphysics and bullshit.
Have you ever smelt the odor of a measles-infected dinosaur's shit? I suppose it to be totally like what you posted here. Everyday you impress me with your primitive thinking.
Dinosaur coprolites do not smell. Beyond that it is essentially impossible they carried a human disease.
Quote:Firstly: Philosophy is not separated from science and not all the philosophies are metaphysical. For instance the postmodernism philosophy is related to quantum mechanics.
A while back there was philosophy and natural philosophy. A couple centuries ago the latter split from the former because it was producing correct knowledge about the universe. The former is still producing nothing but bullshit.
Philosophers like Popper are ignorant of science by definition. Philosophers only fool themselves and their drones into thinking they understand science. Ask a scientist.
Quote:Secondly: Even for metaphysics... a certain way of a reasonable scientific thinking may lead to put "God" as a probability not equal to zero (for me it is very improbable), because some physicists see that physics laws may be a reflection of an external reality ... Steven Hawking himself said that there may be a "god" who put the laws of nature, but he doesn't intervene to break them.
And you do not understand probability. Probabilities can only be established after observing a large number of examples of the event. How many gods have you observed? What kind of probability distribution did you establish? Did you publish your studies?
What Hawking says about cosmology interests us. What he says outside his field is his business. However Hawking has been lecturing on the specific theme that there is no evidence of a god and no need for a god. You should pay attention to what he does say instead of making things up.
Quote:This point is in which physics ad metaphysics may intersect...
It either does or does not. May and may not are not opposites merely different hypotheticals. Does and does not are opposites.
Answer: does NOT
Quote:but, for me, I had my reasons to dispel the idea of deity to that extent which allows me to describe my self as a strong atheist.
Metaphysical origins of the physics laws are not confined to deities or gods,
Unless you have demonstrated such an origin by repeatable experiment you are just pissing up a rope.
Quote: there are other probabilities such as the thought of that we live in a "fake" world or we live in a "computer" manufactured by other creatures out of our Nature and physics .... They will then be "metaphysical" creatures, but not deities or gods in the popular senses. It is another probability which is not equal to zero, but I have some critiques against it.
That does not differ from randomly stringing words together, aka gibberish.
Quote:(May 9, 2013 at 10:06 pm)A_Nony_Mouse Wrote: I have several times challenged this god of yours to logon and debate me personally. So far no god. And I am certain you god can speak for itself so no excuses or explanations from you.
I don't believe in him. But at all events we should be open-minded to all thoughts even if they appear trivial to us. At least because this is the way to understand others and change them if possible.
No logon no god QED
