A challenge about women and marriage in Islam

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Would make for a great sci-fi short. How long do we have to wait to avail ourselves of a genetically engineered entity - built for the purpose of satisfying a sexual desire from the outset?

Ahhh, Lust Beasts

Who knows how long it'll be... if we never deal with the big questions. But I'd like to think it's soon

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Age separation is nothing like racial separation, clearly there is a relationship between biological and psychological maturity and age.

Nothing like it? Well then, how about separation of sexes over the same basis as 'age separation'? Females get to have their age line drawn before males, and males get to stay out of the age of majority until 25... why, I'm ALL for that. It at least is structured loosely over generalized data, instead of completely made up on the spot

Is there clearly a relationship between "biological and psychological maturity and age"? Why don't I see it, then? Have you met fr0d0 and minimalist?

He never answered me if english was or was not his first language... but now I'm fairly certain it's not. Still, I *think* I know what he's trying to say.

How is anything I've mentioned got anything to do with serfdom or barring 50 percent of the population from getting a job?

... I don't think you can possibly be thick enough as to pluck it out of the middle of its context and seriously question it as if you're the only one capable of bringing things into the argument.

Are you, possibly, a control freak?

Make your point then, in what way does gay marriage have to do with the Islamic system of marriage, I've only actually argued against the Islamic system of marriage which allows an adult man to marry a 9 year old female, I haven't even proposed an argument against gay or lesbian sex at age 9 simply because it has nothing to do with the thread.

Have I *yet* argued for a specifically "Islamic?" system of marriage?

Homosexuals typically have their first sexual experiences earlier in their lives because of how prevalent the likes of sleepovers, girl scouts/boy scouts, single sex dormitories, and their parents being comfortable leaving two boys together or two girls together.

This was a severe omission of data from the study as it was presented to us, the only reason i've written half of what I've written is that you continued to pull this data out *without even looking at it* (for a mind-bogglingly retarded reason, by the way), which was given to you by a poe, and which you stayed true to until you gave it up because 'Lilly's not getting it'. Damn right, dog.

Also if you admit that christian beliefs have nothing to do with the reality of what Jesus actually did then how does what Muhammad actually did interfere at all with what the Muslim beliefs are and what the Islamic system is?

Again, theologians ≠ masses. The latter might use christianity or islam as the justification of their actions, but these actions are those of people, not those of islam or christianity.

Because personally I don't believe a child should have the option of becoming pregnant even if they want to.

Okay... now focus, because I'm going to ask you the same question I've asked you for the last 10 posts:

Why?

It's all well and good that "Oh, I don't like it" or "I don't believe it"... it's quite another to realize *why* this it. Seriously, it's great introspection... you might do well to try it.

I also think that a lot of growing up occurs between the ages of 9 and 16 and a lot of wisdom is accumulated between those ages that's certainly the case for me and the case for everyone I've grown up with. I think 9 year olds are more vulnerable to abuse in general and as you stated people within marriages are vulnerable to abuse anyway, just making the situation worse.

I think that a lot of growing up occurs between the ages of 28 and 35, and a lot of wisdom is accumulated between those ages. That's the case for my parents and it's certainly the case for everyone I've known for 7 years regardless of their age.

I think that just about everyone is vulnerable to abuse in general, and as I stated: people within mariages are exposed to the vulnerabilities that come with trust.

How about this one: WHY are 9 year olds vulnerable? WHAT *specifically* makes them vulnerable?

I said I'd do it... this is me, doing it.