A challenge about women and marriage in Islam

[Rayaan]

Show me one time I ever did that. You don't even need to show me 2 times, just once when I ever made a generalization about how muslims treat women.

In every post where you wrote that 9-year-old girls get pulled out of education, forced into marriage, and abused by their husbands, which you repeated many times in this thread.

http://atheistforums.org/thread-18243-po...#pid437364
http://atheistforums.org/thread-18243-po...#pid437713
http://atheistforums.org/thread-18243-po...#pid434342

Those are just three of them.

My point is that because someone married a 9 year old girl 1400 years ago it doesn't make it ok to do that now just because of a religion or for any other reason, not when we have education systems in place for 9 year olds for a reason these days, they work better than the systems that were in place 1400 years ago.

There is no system in Islam which advocate that 9-year-olds have to get married in the first place; It's not even a part of the Shariah at all, although it is allowed under the conditions that the marriage is consensual and that the female has reached puberty, at least, regardless of her age.

And speaking of Shariah, here is a long and detailed article that explains what it really is, and what the rules are behind its punishments:

http://www.studying-islam.org/articletext.aspx?id=1012

From the western point of view, it seems to suggest that Islamic law is all about 'lashing, stoning and mutilating'. This is the picture of the Shariah that the West wants to portray, but it is far from the truth. Even the term Islamic law, judged by Western standards, could be a misnomer; "The Shariah is not merely a system of law, but a comprehensive code of behavior that embraces both private and public activities" and "it has a wider application than any secular system of law since it claims to regulate all aspects of a man's life - his duties to God, to his neighbor and to himself".

Some of the punishments that exist in the Shairah might be very harsh and brutal, yes, but there is a reason for that, which is to simply reduce crime rates - and it works.

And it works better than the Western system.

The deterrent punishments in Islam on the surface appears to be harsh, but it is only meant for "such incorrigible offenders who stand as real obstacles in the healthy growth of human society" and "in fact, it was a vital instrument in the dynamics of building a new social order" and it radically abolished and amended the pre-Islamic systems where inhumanity and vengeance was the order of the day. Prisons in Western societies are miserably failing its people and apart from being living hell, prison destabilizes people and often has a "destructive effect on the personality" [...] Thus, it is not true to say that prison is the more appropriate punishment for theft rather than the amputating of hand and if reducing the crime rate is the objective, then certainly the choice will be the Divine law - you just have to compare the crime statistics of Saudi Arabia and America and judge which one is better."