A challenge about women and marriage in Islam

[paulpablo]

Maybe it wasn't the links you posted, but what you said that made generalized statements about Muslims. But just so we're clear, the videos are pretty anti-Islamic.

No we aren't clear on that, the videos featured Muslims but held no subjective opinion on muslims or made generalized claims about the entire Islamic world, they just showed the consequences of what happens when you legalize marriage to 9 year olds. The videos from what I remember actually didn't feature any non muslims or have any voice overs from any non muslims, they basically only featured Muslims and made no statement about the Islamic world as a whole, just to clarify neither did I.

but there are also certainly cases where a man is easier to abuse than that same individual would have been as a woman due to being *slightly* larger and/or more muscular.

Please elaborate on these cases, if they have anything to do with domestic abuse between a man and a woman where a woman was less vulnerable than a man because she was physically weaker and smaller.

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Here's another example of opinion without telling us anything. WHY do you believe that stoning is not an applicable death sentence for a heinous crime? WHY do you believe that cutting off someone's hand(s) for thievery is not a worthy sentence?

Start another thread on it and I'll tell you

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I shouldn't need to explain this to anyone why someone who is taller with bigger muscles is more vulnerable than someone who is small with small muscles think about why in war tall people get butchered by guns, think about when a person is running away and they're faced with a small gap between them and freedom why a large person won't make it, think about why people evolved to be of a moderate height in the first place.

None of which has any relevance to circumstances involved in domestic violence but you seem to be advocating that we should also have 9 year old soldiers now in war?

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Sure, but given that the idea's been around for, oh... at as long as aqueducts, and significantly before anyone thought to educate the peasant class...

Education existed before humans, monkeys educate their young.

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You seriously don't understand how utterly worthless the education of basic arithmetic and language is...

I never said these two things were important, I said educating children is important.

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Stunted growth, disease, just about everyone wheelchair bound, midgets, etc. What, you've never known any of these people? 0.o You know OF them, yes?

Yes, they all become stronger at age 16 than they were at age 9 obviously unless the disease prevents what typically happens between the ages of 9 and 16 (becoming stronger and taller and less vulnerable)

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However, these people are nearly identically vulnerable at 16 as they are at nine

So you know people who got taller and stronger but became just as vulnerable as 9 year olds? Did they become more stupid? What happened?

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We arrive at the ALL IMPORTANT QUESTION: What has differed between a 9 year old, 30 year old, and 80 year old that allows for an identical abuse they experience to be greater or lesser?

The 9 year old will be smaller weaker have less experience and will most likely be still reliant on some form of parent or guardian.
But yes 80 year olds are also of an age group which may be vulnerable because of their age and how it has effected their body.

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Because I tell you why I'm posting but not responding to your post quite yet so as to not offend you: you get offended? Angel

My... bloody... gods... on... high. You really are this thick, ain'tcha? Thinking

I'm not offended by you attempting to insult me or by ignoring me.

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Are you omitting all potential forms of abuse for sake of argument without telling me? Because I am *not* omitting emotional, financial, social, sexual, physical, familial, psychological, or physiological abuses...

No a 9 year olds usually have less experience with money so are more vulnerable to financial abuse, less experience with people, less experience with sex, weaker physically, you will have to explain to me what physiological abuse is.

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You don't believe in that, since you're an atheist,

I don't believe in stoning people to death for adultery because I think it's barbaric and inhumane, atheism is a lack of belief in god it doesn't effect my belief in not stoning people to death. But yeh you're correct I also don't believe sharia is law from god.

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The more severe a punishment is, the more effective it is in reducing crimes, and the more effective a punishment is in reducing crimes, the better.

In my opinion killing people in order to stop adultery isn't worth it, neither is the amputation of hands in order to stop stealing.

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You don't believe in that, since you're an atheist, so you can follow or agree with whatever system that you feel is correct.

Muslims do the same thing with the several different Muslim systems and beliefs.

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But your style of arguing is very unique.

You the way violet types paragraph after paragraph after paragraph of writing without actually making a valid point? I've seen it done before.

I'm looking forward to the next mound of paragraphs you can both post on here, but take your time you don't want to type anything stupid.
Let's see if you can both do the next mound without resorting to insulting videos, insulting comments, accusations of religious prejudice and all the other tactics people who are losing arguments usually use.