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A challenge about women and marriage in Islam
RE: A challenge about women and marriage in Islam
(May 16, 2013 at 4:17 pm)paulpablo Wrote: I'm going to help you out with your argument by suggesting that you surely aren't arguing that all of general education is a farce?

I'm just trying to stop you from saying this because it is pretty stupid.

I would argue this, infact.

Is it? How about you demonstrate this to me?

Quote:Your actual argument was that 9 year olds should be able to skip education if they want to I thought?

That's one argument of mine... if someone wants to screw up their life by making a decision, or make their life better by making a decision: it's on them.

Of course, if they want to go back and learn <whatever>, nobody should be stopping them.

Quote:My argument against this is that they shouldn't have the opportunity to get married and pregnant at 9 because they might not even be fully aware at this stage about how it will effect the rest of their life, a lot of little girls want a baby without realizing the responsibility it entails, this is amplified with a 9 year old, who's pregnancy would also be a hindrance on an already overworked national health service who now need to provide C sections to all the pregnant 9 year olds.

When I left Alaska, I'd just turned 18, and I went to Texas. I come back 8 months later, and find out that many of the people I knew had gotten married, gotten pregnant, gone to college, and a few had even had babies.

I leave and come back again, and most of those had ended in divorce, abortion, changed their major, and complained heavily about the circumstances that baby-having resulted in.

We're all children, from 1 to 92. Nobody is 'fully' aware of how children or marriage or college will affect their life, even those who have been through it already often mischaracterize what went wrong in their lives. For all that hindsight is claimed to be 20/20... our situations and understandings have changed since then.

Having children is a massive responsibility, I would always prefer that those seeking children of their own first learn from the children of other people, attempting to care for them first. I would be completely okay with amending pregnancy-related laws with "Must first prove that one can care for the child according to <proficiency>".

I don't agree that a nine year old getting pregnant today is going to 'overwork' health services (consider: they could be getting pregnant in 9 years, and the effect would be nearly identical as far as work that doctors must do).
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Messages In This Thread
Shocking statistics about sex - by Muslim Scholar - May 1, 2013 at 4:16 am
RE: Shocking statistics about sex - by paulpablo - May 1, 2013 at 4:23 am
RE: Shocking statistics about sex - by paulpablo - May 1, 2013 at 4:37 am
RE: Shocking statistics about sex - by paulpablo - May 1, 2013 at 4:49 am
RE: A challenge about women and marriage in Islam - by Violet - May 16, 2013 at 4:35 pm

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