(May 12, 2013 at 9:13 am)dazzn Wrote: I am black, and even in some part descended from slaves.For this reason, I find your perspective interesting. You later specify a specific case of slavery, and your opinion of it intrigues me, given your heritage and your relation to the specific topic of slavery you are referring to.
(May 12, 2013 at 9:13 am)dazzn Wrote: However, I will say this. I don't give a shit about "slavery".
When reading this sentence, I anticipated some uproar due to the apparent insensitive nature of its construction. I think you were misunderstood, and when attacked, my guess is that you instinctively went in to defending yourself, rather than justify this statement. Correct me if i'm wrong, but I thought what you were trying to say was:
You don't cling to the historical event of slavery as it did not effect you personally, and you find no need to cling to it as justification for a debt owed to you for the same reason. I did not feel that you were condoning it. Is this a fair interpretation?
(May 12, 2013 at 9:13 am)dazzn Wrote: Human beings are cruel. Get over it. We're a savage species at our root.So, to me, after you stated your opinion towards choosing not to implicate yourself in a historical event that did not directly involve you personally when it occurred, I think this statement was made to draw attention to the pattern of cruel behavior that human beings have been historically capable of, and you were implying that future behavior will inevitably follow, and this may be a stretch, but I did not think you were exonerating the responsibility of others to avoid such acts of cruelty in the future, instead, you seemed to be implying the need to concern oneself with one's own actions rather than seeking undeserved retribution from others of the human race that have shown to be capable of such terrible acts of cruelty?...and that if you do expect such retribution, it would be naive to anticipate positive results, given the track record?
(May 12, 2013 at 9:13 am)dazzn Wrote: Just a cursory glance at how we behave lends to this.More emphasis on the track record in support of your case...
(May 12, 2013 at 9:13 am)dazzn Wrote: Most blacks who claim to hate whites over slavery are total hypocrites.
I see no need to couch this claim with the word "some". By definition, they are all hypocrites if they meet the prefacing criteria.
(May 12, 2013 at 9:13 am)dazzn Wrote: If racism is bad, then it cannot be used to serve your own agenda. If something is deemed wrong, it cannot be right when YOU use it.A valid point and rationally inferred.
(May 12, 2013 at 9:13 am)dazzn Wrote: What does being angry do exactly? Will your anger travel back in time to 1750 or whenever, unshackle your ancestor on the slave ship and send him or her back to Africa?
Here you make reference to a specific instance of slavery. You are not speaking about slavery over-all, but a specific historical period and the events within that period. When you ask what being angry does, it brings attention to the fact that there is no longer an active perpetrator to direct your anger toward and then you suggest absurdities to illustrate that consolation for the acts in question can not be attained as they have long since transpired. Is this fair?
I sense anger in the post, and perhaps that anger can lead a reader to make assumptions on your position. You were then forced into the ring to fight a battle of morality, but your OP seemed to be more about letting go of the past, and not so much an attempt to establish a moral paradigm. If this is a fair assessment of your post, I think it may be wise for you to gather your thoughts, and construct a more accurate representation of your views on morality in a separate thread, so that you may have more carefully constructed ideas to defend, rather than a misunderstood post about vindictive behavior.