(June 1, 2013 at 8:48 am)Faith No More Wrote: No. What I'm looking for is something more substantial than a believer pointing to something that exists and claiming that is proof of god without any attempt whatsoever to demonstrate why. What I am looking for is something other than philosophical concepts that can't be demonstrated to exist without an appeal to the existence of the very deity you are trying to prove. What I'm looking for is something that doesn't require discarding rationality and reason to accept.
What is "rationality"?
Something "we" have sorted out through methods invented by man?
[wiki] "Determining optimality for rational behavior requires a quantifiable formulation of the problem, and the making of several key assumptions."
The word "assumptions" comes up more than "rational" in its definitions!
The definition also goes on to explain that once a rational decision is made, it is "irrational" to change that decision!!!!!
Actually reading about "rational behavior", becomes very "irrational" to me!
...it goes on to say: "The only rational decision that can be made has to be devoid of any emotions or feeling....."
LOL! It also says, that if I "assume" something is correct based on whatever led me to this decision...as long as I deliver it in an unemotional manner...it's rational!
Hmmmmm. I, being of sound mind and through careful thought and consideration think there is a God!
See how rational I am?!
So, rational is the wrong term because there is too much "assumption" involved! And you and others are quite "emotional" in your delivery!
Quis ut Deus?
