(June 1, 2013 at 8:48 am)Faith No More Wrote:Are you going to insist that, out of every Christian on this planet, not one of them has presented a logical argument for Christianity?(June 1, 2013 at 5:38 am)Consilius Wrote: The thing is that no one would be satisfied. Worst case scenario, you would claim that we don't have the science to debunk it yet.
Why would God spend time drying up oceans when there are already Christians everywhere working to spread his message?
It's not about getting you to look at him; Christianity is about God getting people to meet him halfway.
So, rather than demonstrate miracles, god is content with his followers spreading his message through fallacious arguments and appeals to emotion? If god exists, he isn't asking for people to meet him halfway. He is asking for complete intellectual surrender.
At the same time, I can't rationalize everything about Christianity. There is nothing beneficial evolutionarily about martyrdom or turning the other cheek. A thing about being met halfway is that some of it makes sense, and some parts of it, not so much.
What the Bible preaches is hope in what cannot be seen. People love other people because of these parts of their relationships: when they are there for you when you have no reason to expect them to. The human-divine relationship is the same. Nobody is certain about if the god they worship is there or not, but some of them are pretty sure.
(June 1, 2013 at 5:38 am)Consilius Wrote: What you're looking for is an account of the day his voice boomed down from heaven, but that is something that you simply won't get.
No. What I'm looking for is something more substantial than a believer pointing to something that exists and claiming that is proof of god without any attempt whatsoever to demonstrate why. What I am looking for is something other than philosophical concepts that can't be demonstrated to exist without an appeal to the existence of the very deity you are trying to prove. What I'm looking for is something that doesn't require discarding rationality and reason to accept.
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Please, think of a SINGLE event that, if it happened right now, would undoubtably prove God's existence. I can ASSURE you it doesn't exist.
