(June 1, 2013 at 9:31 pm)Consilius Wrote: Are you going to insist that, out of every Christian on this planet, not one of them has presented a logical argument for Christianity?
No, but I will insist that every argument that I am aware of hasn't been logically sound.
(June 1, 2013 at 9:31 pm)Consilius Wrote: There is nothing beneficial evolutionarily about martyrdom or turning the other cheek.
Not everything that is a result of evolution benefits evolution directly. Many times traits come about that are by-products of other beneficial traits.
Anyways, can you prove that evolution cannot account for those things?
(June 1, 2013 at 9:31 pm)Consilius Wrote: Nobody is certain about if the god they worship is there or not, but some of them are pretty sure.
I appreciate the admittance that people can't be certain that god is there or not, but many of the theists that come here claim to know that their god exists.
Regardless, conviction of the human mind that something is real has no bearing on its actual existence. This is why many people put so much emphasis on verifiable evidence.
(June 1, 2013 at 5:38 am)Consilius Wrote: Please, think of a SINGLE event that, if it happened right now, would undoubtably prove God's existence. I can ASSURE you it doesn't exist.
I can think of one right off the top of my head. God popping over and saying, "Hi."
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell