Monsanto gives up fight for GM plants in Europe

[Tiberius]

You do realise that through farming one does not simply seperate oneself from the surrounding ecosystem and create a bubble in which the outside world has no influence in and from which you dont have any influence on the outside.

Yes, I do realise that. Do you realise that the farmer owns the fields and can therefore do pretty much whatever he wants with them? He could decide that instead of producing wheat, he now wants a dairy farm, converting all of his fields into pastures. Would that have a knock-on effect for the ecosystem that has so far existed thanks to the wheat fields? Yes. It doesn't matter though; it's not going to somehow destroy all similar ecosystems across the country.

Not when it can have negative effects on the surrounding fields, woods, natural habitats, cities and the customers of the food he produces.

What are these negative effects exactly? The Monsanto crop isn't impervious to pests; it's impervious to pesticides. If some of the seed starts to grow in surrounding fields that aren't treated with the Monsanto pesticide, it'll still get eaten by the pests.

Also...most farms aren't near cities.

You dont get it do you? Have ever been engaged in a reality outside of your cliche dentist son`s world?

Dentist son? WTF are you on about?

the point of food aid - just like with any aid - is that it is given to the needing for free

You should really look into aid, because if you think it's all free, you are having a laugh. A lot of government aid is based on loans which need to be repaid.

My point was that we also sell food to other countries that need it.[/quote]

Food aid is given by goverments who buy food from the farmers who produce it.

And not by the farmers.

Food is also sold to other countries who need it, which was my point. Also that more food = more food available to be given / sold to other countries.

A farm is not a bubble which has no influence on the outside ecosystem.

I never said it was.

That is your interpertation and overly theatrical presentation.

I see geneticaly supirior monsanto seed straying of the fields and pushing away less infirior but natural plants from their natural inhabitat.

Again, you don't seem to understand how these plants are genetically "superior". They are resistant not to a pest, but to a pesticide, produced by Monsanto.

If the crop is planted and treated with the Monsanto pesticide, they resist the pesticide and the pesticide kills the pest. If the crop is planted but not treated with the Monsanto pesticide (i.e. it strays to a field that is not using the Monsanto seed), it will be vulnerable to the pest.

There is nothing about the plants themselves which makes them "superior" in the way they grow with other crops. It's purely on the way they resist one pesticide produced by Monsanto. Your ideas are more in line with the ravings of the anti-GMO crowd than they are with reality.

Oh yeah, just tell them...........

What a weard reply. And what then? trust them that they wont produce the products they export to europe according to european laws.

For someone who seems to be such a fan of regulation, you don't seem to understand how it works...

My main concern is local production and not GMO. I am not anti GMO, but want the local economy to thrive and not to be depending on american low quality food exports.

In what way are they "low quality"? They are the same seed, but have just been genetically modified to be resistant to a certain pesticide. If anything, they are better quality...

The debate is irrelevant - German parlament said no and the case is closed.

Right, yes that's how debates work. As soon as a decision is made, nobody can ever talk about it again.

California banned gay marriage. I guess they can never have gay marriage again by your pathetic logic.

Newsflash. We're not in German parliament. We're debating whether the decision was a good one or not.

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And what if aliens land and want anal sex?!!!

Stupid what if moaning and sobbing.

The benefit of a european education is that I know what a laconic phrase is.

Have you finally lost it?