Monsanto gives up fight for GM plants in Europe

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I've already covered that. Opening up GMO foods does not mean Monsanto is the only player in the game. Other GMO companies can and will arise if the market is open enough. There is already a research lab in the UK looking into GMOs.

As for the dependency, I call bullshit on it. The farmer isn't forced into the relationship; he does it out of choice. Secondly, there is nothing stopping a farmer from going back to non-GMO foods if someone tries to screw him over on price.

I will not reply to that. I`ll admit that I am still biased towards you. Cause I am boiling in rage at YOU!

I thought I had calmed when I returned, but I didnt. Maybe in a few more months.

The fact remains that I wrote "I am not a racist, but" and then suggested I liked to have drinks with members of the SS. Sorry Germans, but anyone, especially a German, should know how that comes across. I find your excuse very hard to believe.

That is your interpretation. Having a drink with the SS is not like going to kill Jews with the SS. Alot of people had "drinks" with the SS. Including the top industrial magnates of the country who seemed to have no problem with having slave labor work in their factories aslong as it made them a profit.
Considering that you thought it alright to gain a profit with a modern day slave state - the comparison was appropriate.

I grew up near a concentration camp which "leant" slave workers to a local quarry, chemstry company and construction buisness. - those people who owned those buisnesses were here refered to as

"Die mit der SS ein paar Bierchen tranken"

"Those who had a few drinks with the SS"

So you can keep the "especialy a german" nonsence to yourself!

The problem with your excuse here is that I didn't ever suggest anything about gaining profit or personal good from engaging with racists. That was something of your own invention.

Hard to not see it differently when a constant defender of every kind of free market interaction defends the trade with a brutal regime on grounds of which no one had ever heard before.

I'd be an opportunist if I hung out with racists because they gave me good deals and I didn't care about their racism.

Wrong. And a silly excuse. Even if you cared, it wouldnt change the fact that you decided to deal with them. Hence - make a profit with them - let them make a profit - legitimise them as businesspartners - give them more confidence of being socialy acceptable

That's not why I would hang out with racists. I'd hang out with them if they were my friends who were otherwise decent people, and if I had the chance to try and change their views.

And what would you tell your colored friends? And how long would you persist with something? - also for 10 years?

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That's an anti-trust issue, to be sure...but only where anti-trust laws exist. A farmer -could- buy his seed from someone else, there are competitors (their main pesticide is off-patent now so it's a non-issue) - but Monsanto's seed is very well engineered, it is demonstrably superior and so farmers -choose- to continue buying it and planting it to increase their net. If Monsanto raises their prices to a point where a producer would net more with another product that's what they'll plant - if they figure the difference is worth it.

That's how this is done. Think of agricultural producers as short term investment specialists, because that's what they are.

But a farmer cannot use a different pesticide or fertilizer after already buing the crop. So what if monsanto decides to raise prices of the fertilizer and pestisides after selling the crop? - if the farmer doesnt buy it he loses his harvest.

Ever heard of the 18th century Glasgow tobacco traiders?

Because it would free up your capital and your productive land (which can then be used to generate more capital). If somebody can do something cheaper and better than you, you let them do that and focus on something else (while leveraging their ability an products) to maximize your own efforts.

Yet that would kick regional farmers and their products out of buisness, because producing in the US and exporting to EU is cheaper than producing in the EU. Other than that, it would create European dependency for food towards the US.