(June 6, 2013 at 9:27 am)fr0d0 Wrote: If Gods intention is for his existence to be unknowable, independently of belief, as is established in the bible, you won't be able to distinguish his actions with science.If his intention is for his existence to be unknowable, then how do you know about him?
How does anyone know about him?
Why do different groups of people know about him in different ways, and each claims that their way is one true way?
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As for dying for atheism... meh, not interested. If someone is stupid enough to point a gun at me and, unless I "say" that I believe in some deity, he's going to kill me, then I sure as heck am going to "say" that... I have no problem lying to save my ass... .and that other person would probably be stupid enough to believe me... -.-'
Would that influence my lack of belief for that particular deity that I was "forced" to "say" I believed in? not one tiniest bit.
You can't make me believe your bullshit, but I can say that I do believe it...
How would you tell the difference between me "saying" I believe and me actually believing?