(June 7, 2013 at 12:17 am)Rhythm Wrote: Then it's conceivable that we might find ourselves in an even more disturbing predicament. Imagine that you find yourself part of the invisible choir. The lord is before you and you know in that moment that you have entered paradise. But when you look to your left - there I sit.
My heart paid the price of my entry - but I do not wish to be there, and my opinion of the god in question has not changed. What then?
Well.... For one, what do we actually [think] about God (in our minds eye of what a God should be)? He would be: Just, Loving, Fatherly, Forgiving, and Give us everything He has!
Punishment is NOT on the chart. Unless, that is what we want.
Jesus said: "I will NOT judge you. You will judge yourself!" He also says after we die, "Those who come to the light, will come to me."
That's pretty simple. It says to me, if we want heaven we will go there. If we don't, we won't. The "choice" is always there. Because we "want it".
You know that a lot of countries hate us for our freedoms here in America. Not because they wouldn't want to be free, but because it doesn't limit us in anything! Including religious freedom! But, we wouldn't have it any other way! We are free to think and be anything we want!
Well....? This is part of God's plan! To let us do "whatever we want"! We have dominion over the earth, and all that is in it! It is in our power (individually & collectively) to do a lot of good....or evil.
I was at my dad's house who is an atheist, for a party. When the subject of God came up...which he never missed a chance to bash.... He said the classic "if there was a God babies wouldn't be dying in 3rd world countries." My dad is very well off, and all his friends are too!
I prayed quietly that the Holy Spirit would give me words. Not so much for my dad, but for all the people there nodding their heads in agreement w/ him. I asked my dad a question: [hey dad, hows business? Are you doing well for yourself?] He said, "well, yeah very good!." [And your business partners too?] "Yes, they are doing very well, why?" I said, then why don't you and your friends get on a jet and go help those dying 3rd world babies?
He had a blank look on his face, and didn't say a word. And everyone in the room looked quite uncomfortable, and sober.
Is it practical for him to go save babies? Probably not. Can he save all the babies? Probably not. But, we do have it in our power to irradicate a lot of shit happening in the world. We are free to do it, or not.
It's what we wanted from the beginning. Free-will. So, we will always have that chioce. Even to the end. And I don't know what the options other than God are...maybe you'll have a change of heart when you see it someday! It might be everything you would expect...or more!
Quis ut Deus?