(June 12, 2013 at 11:32 pm)FallentoReason Wrote:(June 12, 2013 at 11:03 pm)catfish Wrote: If I don't agree with your premise, your conclusion is irrelevant, (not that I agree with it anyway).
My conclusion is your objection.
You say you don't think God is just. That's the same thing as saying a just God doesn't exist.
p.s. simply asserting ~p doesn't refute my argument. Your objection is begging the question.
Quote:What would be considered "just" in a material world if we were immaterial minds?
Why is this relevant?
First, I don't claim to know any of God's attributes for certain. So I can't agree with it. How can you be certain of that premise? Where do you get it from, the bible?
If we are immaterial minds, we're living in the matrix and anything bad that happens(ed) can be equated to no more relevant to reality than being beaten in a video game. So your premise of "just" also needs a definition.