(June 12, 2013 at 11:39 pm)catfish Wrote:(June 12, 2013 at 11:32 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: My conclusion is your objection.
You say you don't think God is just. That's the same thing as saying a just God doesn't exist.
p.s. simply asserting ~p doesn't refute my argument. Your objection is begging the question.
Why is this relevant?
First, I don't claim to know any of God's attributes for certain. So I can't agree with it.
Fair enough.
Quote:How can you be certain of that premise? Where do you get it from, the bible?
Psalm 25:8
God is fair and just; He corrects the misdirected, Sends them in the right direction.
Quote:If we are immaterial minds, we're living in the matrix and anything bad that happens(ed) can be equated to no more relevant to reality than being beaten in a video game. So your premise of "just" also needs a definition.
I agree with your analogy. I don't see what the problem is with the word "just" though. What is it about the analogy that makes you think the word "just" as we usually understand it doesn't exactly apply or something? What I'm basically highlighting in the OP is that "we" (humans and animals i.e. all immaterial minds) were once immaterial minds without physical bodies, and now we have entered this "game", but some of us (humans) will actually be judged based on what happens in this "game", and thus our immaterial minds will be cast into the pits of hell or will be graced by the clouds of heaven. Why is it that there were immaterial minds to begin with, and only some go through an intermediate phase where so much can be lost once they return to simply being immaterial minds? It's not at all a just treatment of these immaterial minds.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle