Kudos to our theist members

[Brian37]

Theists don't belong here. It's like joining an all-male gym when you are a female.
They have many many forums to choose from, why lurk and troll here?
We all know what they stand for, so what's the point?

Fuck that, seriously. I want theists here. Is that what you want, a closed group where we simply pat each other on the back? Sounds boring to me.

What good does it do? If our species never questioned social norms our species never would have left the caves. Throughout our species history someone had to question and even piss off social norms and make waves to make change.

We know what they stand for yes, and considering I used to be a believer and many here were, what good does it do? Well, our species did go from burning witches to women's rights. Our species went from owning slaves to abolishing slavery. What good does it do? What a stupid question.

I like having theists here because it keeps me sharp. And while I have been at it 12 years, it never ceases to amaze me how many different ways the theist can try to present the same bad argument. I get new versions all the time. Kinda like new software, you gotta keep up with it and know how to debug it.

Plus theists are still humans, not a sub species. I may hate the concept of a god, and the concept of feeling like someone needs a religion, but my family and my friends and most of the world believe. Do I want the debate, YES, because it is needed.

This "What is the point" actually pisses me off more than most theist arguments. I can tell you where the atheist voice was in 01 which was at least in the states tiny by today's measures. Back in 01 there were only a handful of atheist websites, and no major best selling books by atheists. And the only time we were mentioned it was by theist to demonize us.

Now you cant goolge search "atheist" in "news" without hitting a news story somewhere and many times multiple stories in the states almost every day. Not to mention Dawkins and Harris, and Ayaan Hersi Ali who is not only a hero to atheists, but women of all beliefs worldwide.

What does it matter? What kind of world do you want to live in? One that dwells with what feels good, or one that is unafraid of reality and is educated with reality not superstition? If we simply said as a species "what's the point" the sun would be a god, and the earth would be flat.

I am only for kicking someone off ANY BOARD regardless of topic, spamming and physical threats or advocating law braking. But other than that, I want theists here.

And whats with the sexist remark about women joining a man's gym? You do understand that there is more to evolution than mere brawn?

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I for one like coming to atheist church God=BS.

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I don't expect a theist to value my atheism

I don't value your atheism. I value the opinions of people. I would think of it as a personal failure to miss what someone was saying because I descriminated against them.

And any person deserves respect. Otherwise what respect do I have for myself?

Stop, "discrimination" is when you hate someone for no good reason. Saying for example "the earth is not flat you idiot" to someone who believes the earth is flat" is not discrimination. It is stating a fact, and anyone who would still believe the earth is flat knowing what we know now would be an idiot.

Don't confuse hate of a claim with hate of a person, if you keep doing that, I really will hate you.

Like you I value someone's right to express their opinion. I do not value giving it taboo status when I do not agree with it. I personally failed most of my childhood caving in to people who didn't want me expressing myself, and all that got me was depressed and bullied.

Really, any person deserves respect? Any person? Men who make women walk behind them deserve "respect"? Men who shoot girls because they want an education deserve "respect". Hitler demanded "respect" too.

You don't like my word choice. That is a comfort issue on your part. Nothing more. If you don't like it, you don't have to respond to me.