RE: Atheist vs. agnostic vs. agnostic atheist
June 16, 2013 at 7:47 pm
(This post was last modified: June 16, 2013 at 7:50 pm by bennyboy.)
(June 15, 2013 at 9:54 pm)whatever76 Wrote:(June 15, 2013 at 10:36 am)Tiberius Wrote: You seem to have missed the point of what Simon Moon was saying. The question you just asked was about knowledge (does God exist?). Now, an atheist may answer "no" to this question, and a theist may remark "yes", but the definitions of both atheist and theist do not require them to do so, because atheism is not "knowing there is no God", and theism is not "knowing there is a God". Both atheism and theism are defined in terms of belief.
Are there atheists that know God exists? If not, what is the value in making the distinction between knowing and believing?
I would say that if one is not willing to say his position constitutes "knowledge," then he doesn't really believe it: at best, he has a strong personal hunch. If you ask a Christian if they know God exists, they'll answer strongly in the affirmative; if they do not, they aren't really Christian. Nor in the case of any sensible atheist is the jury actually out on the existence of God; this stance of (willing to change opinion if evidence is presented) is BS-- the person not only lacks a belief in God, but also a belief that the God idea can be framed in a way that allows for meaningful evidence to be produced.
Repeat after me-- "I believe there are no gods."
