RE: Exodus International shuts right the hell down.
June 21, 2013 at 8:44 am
(This post was last modified: June 21, 2013 at 8:54 am by Drich.)
(June 21, 2013 at 1:37 am)Ryantology Wrote: I think the proper question is, why do your co-religionists find this specific sin so much more terrible than almost
For the same reason some of you feel you can judge the actions of God against your own version of 'morality'
It's a super inflated sense of self right-ness when measured against a gander of like minded believers. In short it is because people derive righteousness apart from the God of the bible, or in a word. They are self righteous.
Quote:Correct me if I am wrong, but there are no religious organizations dedicated to 'curing' people of the vast majority of what is on that list.In biblically based churches there are consulors who specialize in all manner of sins. The larger the church the more support and more sins that are covered. But for most churches the 'major' or most life changing disruptive sins gets the most attention.
Quote:I can't imagine that having gay feelings would be a crisis for almost anybody if we didn't have a homophobic religion dominating our culture. And, in those cases, what is necessary is psychological help. Teaching a person to hate themselves and others like them is not therapy.If gay feelings simply stopped at just feelings then i doubt we would have very many gay people. The fact that we do suggests that feelings are just a gateway, and some people see that and want to stop before it becomes a problem. Or someone has let it go for too long and it is now out of control and this sort of consuling is their only hope in returning to the family that they love.
(June 21, 2013 at 6:43 am)Zen Badger Wrote: But it is only a sin according to Paul. Jesus never mentions it at all.Not true.
Christ underscores the importance and the sanctity of marriage and the marriage bed as the only place where sex of any kind, even the very thought of it is not a sin.
Quote:So you think the word of a mere man surpasses the word of your Lord?Maybe you should read your bible before trying to teach out of it.
Tsk,tsk Drich.
Interestingly enough Jesus did have something to say on divorce.......
Quote:For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter. And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery." —Mark 1:1-12
Uh, No. This is what Mark 1:1-12 actually says
1 The Good News about Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God,[a] begins 2 with what the prophet Isaiah said would happen. He wrote:
“Listen! I will send my messenger ahead of you.
He will prepare the way for you.”
3 “There is someone shouting in the desert:
‘Prepare the way for the Lord.
Make the road straight for him.’”
4 So John the Baptizer came and was baptizing people in the desert area. He told them to be baptized to show that they wanted to change their lives, and then their sins would be forgiven. 5 All the people from Judea, including everyone from Jerusalem, came out to John. They confessed the bad things they had done, and he baptized them in the Jordan River.
6 John wore clothes made from camel’s hair and a leather belt around his waist. He ate locusts and wild honey.
7 This is what John told the people: “There is someone coming later who is able to do more than I can. I am not good enough to be the slave who stoops down to untie his sandals. 8 I baptize you with water, but the one who is coming will baptize you with the Holy Spirit.”
Jesus Is Baptized by John
9 About that time Jesus came from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to the place where John was. John baptized Jesus in the Jordan River. 10 As Jesus was coming up out of the water, he saw the sky torn open. The Spirit came down on him like a dove. 11 A voice came from heaven and said, “You are my Son, the one I love. I am very pleased with you.”
Jesus Goes Away to Be Tempted
12 Then the Spirit sent Jesus into the desert alone. 13 He was there for 40 days, being tempted by Satan. During this time he was out among the wild animals. Then angels came and helped him.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...ersion=ERV
Quote:Yet all those good little christians railing against the sin of homosexuality have no problem with getting divorced. And don't ostracise those who do get divorced.
Isn't hypocrisy fun?
Now ask if I am divorced