(June 21, 2013 at 7:38 pm)Creed of Heresy Wrote: No, Vae, FF13 is shit. Dishonored is "decent but not game of the year good." There IS a difference, you know. Gamers have a very strange, skewed sense of what is shit and what is merely suffering the crime of not being perfect. Dishonored operates perfectly fine, has replayability, decent graphics, an interesting art design, variety, and depth. Nothing in that damns it to being shit. The execution of the game, however, came up a bit short and seemed to promise more than it delivered, though it ultimately delivered enough to be entertaining.
Umm, yes: FF13 IS shit. Dishonored is bleh, I was being cute about it, hence the smile

FF13 has amazing graphics, an interesting art design, and variety. Doesn't save it from being a beautifully constructed... but utterly shit movie.
What damns dishonored to me? Gameplay, and not living up to its expectations. Like ME3: decent game, with some glaring faults (the ending, stick up ass walking and running animations). Except ME3 was awesome aside from those two things. Dishonored? Average in just about every respect. Some likable elements, good enough to have a cult following (ie: you), but overall it just accomplishes being an okay game

A bit short, you say? Very short, I say. Dishonored is entertaining shit.
Quote:So, no, it's not shit. You know what is shit by virtue of not being perfect, though? Skyrim. The dragon AI in that game is fucking terrible. What should have been epic encounters that should've had me on the edge of my seat ultimately ended up involving me just holding the right trigger down to power attack with my warhammer until the dragon fall over dead. Even with the difficulty cranked up, the challenge felt lackluster and I shouldn't need to crank the difficulty up to hard or higher to START feeling like I'm fighting, well, a fucking dragon, and not a giant soft-scaled lizard that can warm me up in the middle of a cold winter night or cool me off in a summer heat and occasionally nibbles too hard. Also those trees. Until the HD patch, those trees were baaad.
Welcome to casual influence on TES. How do you feel? I call them flying pigs... but then, I play Skyrim to roleplay and to explore. Playing skyrim for its combat system? It's harder to fail than it is to succeed... so much so that you probably won't be dying very much. Because dying (and reloading) feels bad, yo.
I wish essential NPCs were not so... essential. Morrowind got that much right. The trees of skyrim are awesome. I recommend you avoid oblivion, morrowind, and daggerfall, if you're a graphics-snob

The longer you know me... the more you'll find out that spectacle rarely impresses me.
Quote:And actually I loved the atmospherics of Fallout 3. Not QUITE so much with New Vegas though NV definitely had its areas where the environments were really fuckin' good. I don't think FO1 or 2 are better games than 3 or NV, though, and I REALLY don't think Tactics or Brotherhood of Steel were better than any of the others. People seem to be under the misapprehension that graphics are the only things that have been improving in games. They're not. Stories are getting better, too. I defy someone to look back at Final Fantasy 7 and really try to maintain that it was a good story compared to some of the better works of modern gaming with a straight face. Good luck, you'll need it. Compared to modern storytelling, the characters are stale, dull, lifeless, and bland, the story is nonsensical and contradictory and flat-out just poorly-written, and the gameplay is slow, grinding, and tedious, lacking subtlety and all around not quite as fun as I remember it being when it was the best that gaming had to offer me in terms of all that I just mentioned. There's more improving in the medium than just graphics. Always remember that. Aesthetics alone do not change in culture.
I love the atmosphere* of the Fallout series in general, and they did awesomely with Fallout 3. I think that 1, 2, and 3 are all very similarly amazing games. Misapprehension... wow, I had no idea you even knew that word. Congratulations

The stories are getting better, and FF IS THE SERIES YOU CHOOSE TO SAY THIS?! XD The stories just keep getting worse and worse, and the characters more and more insufferable. I think that you are letting the graphics get in the way of your interpretation of the characters in FF7 (though I don't think it's story is great by a long shot, it is at least somewhat memorable... unlike 8, 9, 10, 10, 10, 10, 121212121212121212121212121fucking12, and 1313131313131313131313131313131313131313131313131313131313131313131313)... 1-3 are the better entries as far as storywriting goes, IMO.
Modern storytelling is no better than storytelling of 15 years ago (also modern, fyi)... the storylines of video games are sometimes better than they were 15 years ago, but that's up to the artist, and nothing else. Same as it's always been. The gameplay IS slow, grinding, and tedious... and most games of that timeframe *depended* on gamers taking time to go through their *much shorter* games. I happen to enjoy grinding to some extent, though... so if it's a well-designed battle system (which FF7 is, btw): it's a fun thing for me.
You should have had a chance to try something like Shining Force

Aesthetics and graphics are NOT the same thing. Seriousness. Shit graphics and great aesthetics is good, fantastic graphics and shit aesthetics is... bland.
Quote:I wouldn't even call it a graphical update. I would call it a graphical update and a massive step backwards in the franchise. You went from controlling entire complex megalopoli regions interconnected with one another through complex commuting networks and infrastructures...to a city that at its biggest will spike 200,000 if you REALLY fuck everything else off in exchange for that alone. Fucking BOOOOO.
Well, you'll notice you call it a graphical update in both of these

Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day