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Exodus International shuts right the hell down.
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RE: Exodus International shuts right the hell down.
(June 22, 2013 at 2:03 am)Ryantology Wrote: I can judge the actions of God against his own morality, if you prefer. He does not even meet his own standards.
what are you talking about?
"God's standards" are a dividing line that seperates man and God. Man has been told do not do X, not because there is some magical force that says X is always bad, and that God to is bound by this force. What makes X bad is because God said X is bad for us to do.

Quote:I'm certain they would tell you that they are interpreting the Bible and God's word correctly. Who's correct and how do you prove it? I bet that would be a debate that would never end.
The debate end rather quickly when you have a solid understanding of the very basics (have actually read the bible and understand the core of it.) Most biblical debates go one because neither party really have a basic understanding of it.

All debate begins and ends on one precept. Are we using the bible in it's entirety and are we using passage in it originally intended context? If the answer is yes then 90% of the debates will end on exposing context, along with the basic common sense understanding that we are not Old testament Jews.
Ever heard the expression: You were given enough rope to hang yourself?
I believe that is one of the reason we have the old testament.
The OT is still being used by God to help us see the unforgiving nature in our own hearts as Christians. When we couple this unforgiving nature with the whole "Treat others as you like to be treated and couple that with the parable of the unmerciful servant." We have all that we need to understand in this life why God does not see us as one of His own.

Our forgiveness is VERY conditional as per the two conditions I mentioned above "Treat others as you like to be treated and couple that with the parable of the unmerciful servant." In that inorder to forgive and be shown mercy we also must forgive and be shown mercy. Christ even places this condition when He taught us to pray. "Forgive us our sins as we forgive those who sin against us." Without the ablity to forgive we inturn loose our own forgiveness. This and loving God with all of our being is the key to biblical Christianity. Not what church tradition holds onto.

Quote:The irony of this being that the only reason homosexuality is life-changing and disruptive is because Christianity views them as enemies of God.
Not of God. Of the Family. Of a man's personal honor and commitment to serve, honor and love all of those under his charge. Homosexuality disrupts all of this and says it is ok to persue what ever you want.

Quote:Without that constant and heavy negative influence, homosexuals would not live lives significantly different from heterosexuals.
is living life as hetrosexuals the end goal? What if the hetrosexual couple you up hold chooses to goto hell? Does that not matter? is this perceive normalacy all that is desired?

Quote:Again, it is only a problem for people because Christians try so hard to make it a problem for them. If the roles were reversed and homosexuals oppressed heterosexuals in the same way, you would be saying precisely the opposite of what you do now and heterosexuality would be a problem in your eyes.
ROFLOL Ah, no. If the roles were reversed then the problem would resolve itself with in a few generations (or lack of them) For even your god of science and evolution says homosexuality is a sin against nature, one that's reward is an empty womb.

Lest we are already returning to the kryptonian/Matrixian model of procreation. which kinda bypasses Nature, Evolution and God. which maybe why it is not possiable as of yet.

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If a family ostracizes someone for their sexual orientation, that is not a family who is worth returning to, because that is not a family who loves them.

If dad comes home and says: "you know what I think I'll be gay from here on out, sorry 'bout your current life kido but me and Chad here, we are off to do whatever it is we want to do without you and your mother... Then he deserves to be ostracized, just like if he runs off with the cleaning lady.

The only reason for the emphasis on Homosexuality, is because Homos get a pass while hetros still get condemned for doing the same thing.

(June 23, 2013 at 4:27 am)Zen Badger Wrote: So fucking what if you're not divorced.

I'm not talking about you in particular.
So, your not talking about me??? Your just talking to me, about everyone else who believes what I believe?

Quote:I'm talking about christian hypocrites in general. So address my argument instead of trying to put a strawman up.

People like Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh who spew forth on the "sanctity" of marriage(a meaningless term if ever I heard one) being threatened by gay weddings yet have had multiple divorces.
They are just two that spring to mind, thousands of devout christians get divorced every year despite jesus's clear injunction not to.

Fucking hypocrites, all of you.
Huh
So you are talking about me??

Quote:Yet will rail against gays even though jesus says nothing on the subject..
Actually He did. He said no sex outside of a sanctified Marriage. He demonstrated a Santified marriage as between a man and woman.(on several different occasions.) He gave absolutely no sanctified pretext in which Homosexuals can have sex. Which makes all Homosexual sex a sin.
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RE: Exodus International shuts right the hell down. - by Drich - June 24, 2013 at 1:05 am

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