RE: Christians, what is your VERY BEST arguments for the existence of God?
December 28, 2009 at 7:49 am
(December 28, 2009 at 7:35 am)theVOID Wrote: The singularity is also 'timeless' as described in relativity as it gave birth to both time and space. There is no difference between the claim that God is outside of the universe and that the singularity is outside of time - both are infinite by definition and do not require a cause.
So the two are the same. That's what I thought.
(December 28, 2009 at 7:35 am)theVOID Wrote:Quote:Carbon-14 atom produced Nitrogen 14 emitting ionizing particles are created by the Carbon 14 atom are they not? Can you show me a source for that if I'm wrong? And does this fact not then equally disprove the theory of a big bang? / Presumably these particles don't fall outside of the physical universe we understand to have emanated from a first cause?
The Decay it's self is uncaused (not part of a causal chain)
How does that even remotely disprove the big bang? Your argument makes no sense.
That it's part of the physical universe makes it consistent with both the singularity and first cause. If it doesn't then your first statement (above) is incorrect.
(December 28, 2009 at 7:35 am)theVOID Wrote:Quote:Equally to fine tuning we could apply the opposite standpoint: the rarity of life proving divine providence. I don't assume confirmation from 50/ 50 scenarios & wouldn't expect science to either.
The rarity of life proves nothing more than life is rare, whether the origins of life are naturalistic or supernatural is another issue entirely, however the idea that God put the first life forms of life is unfalsifiable and also has no evidence in favor for it and therefore cannot be proof for the existence of God.
& the same applies conversely. You're using a 50/ 50 argument.