RE: If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?
July 4, 2013 at 3:50 pm
(This post was last modified: July 4, 2013 at 3:51 pm by Mystical.)
(July 4, 2013 at 1:07 am)ronedee Wrote:(July 2, 2013 at 11:04 pm)catfish Wrote: Two things....
1st, this is "atheistforums.org"
B. Let's play the True Pagan™ game, I'll go first.
Human sacrifice is a pagan practice which is not condoned in the Bible. Is a person who participates in the act or benefits from the act a pagan? I say yes...
I think you should brush-up on your "pagan history". [Human sacrifice] (aka murder) wasn't a universal trait of "country dwellers"....at least not in the true sense of the term.
Plus... your motives are as bright as day here. I don't believe any of the following definition applies to Jesus?
pa·gan
noun \ˈpā-gən\
Definition of PAGAN
1
: heathen 1; especially : a follower of a polytheistic religion (as in ancient Rome)
2
: one who has little or no religion and who delights in sensual pleasures and material goods : an irreligious or hedonistic person
3
: neo-pagan
I have an atheist coworker who says money is his god.....so, "pagan" sounds more and more like an atheist to me! Especially given the many directions he can move in the material gods of this world...and w/o a religion to hinder him!
And...if you're feeling violently pagan, and/or hungry you could ceremoniously chase a small hen around as a sacrifice? That'll also get you off the couch and exercising, instead of playing those pagan video games! win/win!
OHhhh noooooo! He doesn't even know hes a pagan?!
Fr0d0 I don't know how our conversations keep ending up back at square 1. Please lay out what you do believe god is and how the bible cannot describe his actions or intent as anything but evil. Youve conceded that I'm justified in my beliefs now explain why they don't apply to the god you follow? You is confusin me, man!
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
