RE: Christians: What kind of heaven do you believe in?
July 5, 2013 at 2:57 am
(This post was last modified: July 5, 2013 at 3:46 am by ronedee.)
And yet again you segue out of the question.
Trying to debate with you is a complete waste of time.
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You asked me a question about my "feelings". What do you expect?
If the debate is what I think of innocents going to hell, while the guilty go to heaven?
IMPOSSIBLE!
If it did? I will be just as outraged as you...and curse my God for letting the innocent go to hell..... But, as a true believer in Christ and the Father's Love for all? It won't happen that way! It just won't.
(June 24, 2013 at 1:18 pm)whateverist Wrote: Hell, it's 'possible' that love and happiness are from venus. Hate and war might be from mars. But what is the point in saying so? Does it make it any less mysterious that such things should exist at all? Likewise, saying love comes from a soul just partitions off one portion of ourselves and says all the mystery is in there, the part I'm calling my soul. What information do we have about the mystery by virtue of giving it a name? Well I suppose there is an entire library of speculation on that thing Christianity calls a soul. So I suppose one could think there really is something known about all this but I think that is just trading self honesty for peace of mind. My 2 cents worth, with tax and handling that comes to $150 American.
"trading self honesty for peace of mind"? Isn't that some kind of oxymoron?
With honesty, comes peace of mind. How can anyone find peace without truth? Or vise versa.
Everything we do is based on "LOVE". Everything. Now don't split hairs on me! Ultimately we do everything we do, for "good" reason. And it all boils down to a desire for some kind of love. Ok, you have your deranged citizens.... but the sane ones are living to love; every-thing, and one another.
WHY? Because of the planets? Also, its fine to have mystery about the universe, but frown on the mystery of God? Whats in a "name" of itself? Other than Jesus, nothing!
And really.... what is "love"? And what would we want our God to be if we pondered God at all?
Jesus said: "Seek and you shall find, ask and it will be opened to you." The problem is...no one asks.
We expect Him to just know our minds, and serve us. Because its all His fault for the bad things that happen to us and the world. The truth is? It "ALL" could be fixed!
All we need pray is something (from the heart) like this: "Lord, please take all the crap out of my life, and give me the strength, peace and wisdom to carry out your will, whatever it is, everyday of my life. Through Jesus Christ our Lord, Amen!"
No mystery here. And much more than [peace of mind, or self honesty].
He is the only way to the; Honest Truth, Real Peace, Understanding and Wisdom.
Quis ut Deus?
