(July 8, 2013 at 5:01 pm)Tiberius Wrote: The doctor who performed some of them:
Quote:“Over a 10-year period, that isn’t a huge amount of money,” Heinrich said, “compared to what you save in welfare paying for these unwanted children – as they procreated more. They all wanted it done,” he said of the sterilizations. “If they come a year or two later saying, ‘Somebody forced me to have this done,’ that’s a lie. That’s somebody looking for the state to give them a handout.”
Bolding mine. We should see the result of an investigation before we start crucifying doctors. If they were performing a procedure which was actually wanted by the patient, then there isn't anything wrong with it.
Note that I'm not saying they wanted it; I'm merely exercising skepticism until we have more evidence. Innocent until proven guilty, and all that.
I question the ethics as well as the legality of performing such an operation on people who are confined against their will, regardless of whether or not they want it. And mind you, all we have here is the doctor's word that they actually wanted it.
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-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens
"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations".
- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
"In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! "
- Dr. Donald Prothero
