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Punished for Babel?
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RE: Punished for Babel?
(July 17, 2013 at 7:16 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote:
(July 17, 2013 at 4:49 pm)Drich Wrote: Unless the project was a non-issue and what was being discouraged was the soceitial inferstructure created by man after said tower was built.
Exactly! Thank you Drich. I've been trying to tell the Social Services people that forever. A few years back, I caught my 4 year old son trying to catch his shadow in the hallway. I knew he wasn't going to actually catch it. I just beat him senselessly because I didn't want him to harbor creativity or an imagination. Sometimes the real issue is below the surface. I wish everybody was as level headed as you Drich. (Completely made-up story by the way Smile )

What if you knew that if your son were to continue to try and catch his shawdow it would lead to his death or the death of everyone else around him? I know that is a bit extream but appearently God saw the path we were going down pre bable and it wasn't good for the whole species, so He made a course correction that put us back on track.

Plus how do you know the story was made up? The bible never says the tower/city was anywhere near complete, so what evidence would have there been after 5000 or so years?

(July 17, 2013 at 7:51 pm)YahwehIsTheWay Wrote:
(July 17, 2013 at 4:49 pm)Drich Wrote: If you actually read the story it was not about reaching God.

What Bible did you read?

Quote:Gen 11:4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven;

The word in Gen 11 that is translated 'heaven' in some version is: שמים shamayim, which translates visiable 'heavens' or in simple terms sky. when ever translated with lower case h-eaven. When the upper case is used "H"-eaven it refers to the abode of God. http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexi...8064&t=KJV


Easier to read versions of the bible simply translate using modern english terms.: 4 Then the people said, “Let’s build ourselves a city and a tower that will reach to the sky. Then we will be famous. This will keep us together so that we will not be scattered all over the earth.”
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...ersion=ERV




Also one has to remember that at that point in man's history 'Heaven' was not considered to be in the sky. This did not happen till Jesus assended upon a cloud into Heaven some 3000 years later. Up to that point the only direct contact people had with God was on earth in the garden.
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Punished for Babel? - by Silver - July 17, 2013 at 3:19 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 17, 2013 at 3:59 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by YahwehIsTheWay - July 17, 2013 at 7:51 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 2:03 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Silver - July 18, 2013 at 5:21 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Silver - July 17, 2013 at 10:54 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Bad Writer - July 18, 2013 at 2:24 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Tonus - July 17, 2013 at 4:06 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Minimalist - July 17, 2013 at 4:10 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 17, 2013 at 4:13 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Minimalist - July 17, 2013 at 5:06 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Full Circle - July 17, 2013 at 4:14 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Drich - July 17, 2013 at 4:49 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by The Reality Salesman - July 17, 2013 at 7:16 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Drich - July 18, 2013 at 9:30 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by YahwehIsTheWay - July 18, 2013 at 2:06 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by MikeTheInfidel - July 17, 2013 at 6:26 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Minimalist - July 17, 2013 at 11:10 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by YahwehIsTheWay - July 18, 2013 at 12:22 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Godschild - July 18, 2013 at 3:40 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by MindForgedManacle - July 18, 2013 at 3:58 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Bad Writer - July 18, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Full Circle - July 18, 2013 at 6:13 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by MikeTheInfidel - July 18, 2013 at 7:25 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Godschild - July 18, 2013 at 10:13 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by MindForgedManacle - July 18, 2013 at 10:26 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Polaris - July 17, 2013 at 11:02 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 6:18 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Silver - July 18, 2013 at 6:22 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 6:33 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Silver - July 18, 2013 at 6:36 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 6:42 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Silver - July 18, 2013 at 6:46 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 6:50 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Silver - July 18, 2013 at 6:54 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 7:00 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Silver - July 18, 2013 at 7:03 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Silver - July 18, 2013 at 6:47 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Esquilax - July 18, 2013 at 6:51 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Chas - July 18, 2013 at 5:25 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 6:28 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Silver - July 18, 2013 at 6:32 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 6:36 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Silver - July 18, 2013 at 6:37 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 6:38 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Silver - July 18, 2013 at 6:41 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 6:46 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 7:14 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Esquilax - July 18, 2013 at 7:45 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Silver - July 18, 2013 at 3:28 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 8:10 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by The Reality Salesman - July 18, 2013 at 8:15 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Silver - July 18, 2013 at 3:24 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by pineapplebunnybounce - July 18, 2013 at 8:54 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 8:17 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by The Reality Salesman - July 18, 2013 at 8:36 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 9:45 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by The Reality Salesman - July 18, 2013 at 10:26 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Drich - July 18, 2013 at 11:28 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 11:26 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by The Reality Salesman - July 18, 2013 at 11:55 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Drich - July 18, 2013 at 1:51 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by The Reality Salesman - July 18, 2013 at 2:15 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by The Reality Salesman - July 18, 2013 at 12:19 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 12:11 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 12:26 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by The Reality Salesman - July 18, 2013 at 12:33 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 5:38 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by The Reality Salesman - July 18, 2013 at 7:18 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 7:58 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by The Reality Salesman - July 18, 2013 at 9:18 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Bad Writer - July 19, 2013 at 12:50 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 19, 2013 at 2:23 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Minimalist - July 18, 2013 at 12:55 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by MindForgedManacle - July 18, 2013 at 2:56 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Minimalist - July 18, 2013 at 3:25 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Minimalist - July 18, 2013 at 3:48 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Faith No More - July 18, 2013 at 3:51 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by The Reality Salesman - July 18, 2013 at 4:09 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 10:02 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by The Reality Salesman - July 19, 2013 at 7:16 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by The Reality Salesman - July 18, 2013 at 10:18 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Drich - July 18, 2013 at 10:42 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by MindForgedManacle - July 18, 2013 at 10:56 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Drich - July 19, 2013 at 12:11 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by MindForgedManacle - July 19, 2013 at 4:05 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 19, 2013 at 8:42 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by The Reality Salesman - July 19, 2013 at 10:33 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by wandering soul - July 19, 2013 at 11:10 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Minimalist - July 19, 2013 at 11:27 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by wandering soul - July 19, 2013 at 11:59 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by christcahinkilla - July 19, 2013 at 12:17 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Godschild - July 19, 2013 at 12:32 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 19, 2013 at 12:19 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Chas - July 19, 2013 at 3:11 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 19, 2013 at 5:45 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Silver - July 19, 2013 at 4:38 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Bad Writer - July 19, 2013 at 5:38 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by christcahinkilla - July 19, 2013 at 1:18 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Godschild - July 19, 2013 at 3:17 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Chas - July 19, 2013 at 4:54 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by christcahinkilla - July 19, 2013 at 4:54 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Minimalist - July 19, 2013 at 6:28 pm

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