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Punished for Babel?
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RE: Punished for Babel?
Frodo,

I don't know that I'm making myself very clear here. Picture a blank chalkboard. This represents things I consider to exist from my experience.

No where on this list is the word God. There is no God character anywhere on my chalkboard.

You then come up and tell me about a new character that should have a place on my list.

I would have to first accept that this character is necessary, before entertaining any belief in it. If the process that leads you to believing this character A) Exists B) Has attributes- is unreliable, then I reject your assumption that this "God" is anything more than a conjured idea. This God, is no where on my chalkboard, nor can you give me any reason to think that it would even be necessary to correlate it to the things on my board. I would need to assume that God is a sensical word before adopting a belief system in it. Do you understand?

(July 18, 2013 at 12:26 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Logical concepts don't have to be bound to any one ideal or doctrine. These truths are universally recognized. Humans wouldn't be able to relate to them if they were uniquely insular to Christianity.
You would have to assume that my conversion was some sort of magical transformation. Another leap of faith for you.

Frodo, what logical concepts? Are you referring to the "true-ness" characteristic that 2+2=4 has? Are you sayin that because 2+2 always equals 4, that true-ness is something you think needs an explanation for in a worldview, and to you, that explanation is God?
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Punished for Babel? - by Silver - July 17, 2013 at 3:19 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 17, 2013 at 3:59 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by YahwehIsTheWay - July 17, 2013 at 7:51 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 2:03 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Silver - July 18, 2013 at 5:21 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Silver - July 17, 2013 at 10:54 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Bad Writer - July 18, 2013 at 2:24 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Tonus - July 17, 2013 at 4:06 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Minimalist - July 17, 2013 at 4:10 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 17, 2013 at 4:13 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Minimalist - July 17, 2013 at 5:06 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Full Circle - July 17, 2013 at 4:14 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Drich - July 17, 2013 at 4:49 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by The Reality Salesman - July 17, 2013 at 7:16 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Drich - July 18, 2013 at 9:30 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by YahwehIsTheWay - July 18, 2013 at 2:06 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by MikeTheInfidel - July 17, 2013 at 6:26 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Minimalist - July 17, 2013 at 11:10 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by YahwehIsTheWay - July 18, 2013 at 12:22 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Godschild - July 18, 2013 at 3:40 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by MindForgedManacle - July 18, 2013 at 3:58 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Bad Writer - July 18, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Full Circle - July 18, 2013 at 6:13 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by MikeTheInfidel - July 18, 2013 at 7:25 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Godschild - July 18, 2013 at 10:13 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by MindForgedManacle - July 18, 2013 at 10:26 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Polaris - July 17, 2013 at 11:02 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 6:18 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Silver - July 18, 2013 at 6:22 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 6:33 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Silver - July 18, 2013 at 6:36 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 6:42 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Silver - July 18, 2013 at 6:46 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 6:50 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Silver - July 18, 2013 at 6:54 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 7:00 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Silver - July 18, 2013 at 7:03 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Silver - July 18, 2013 at 6:47 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Esquilax - July 18, 2013 at 6:51 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Chas - July 18, 2013 at 5:25 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 6:28 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Silver - July 18, 2013 at 6:32 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 6:36 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Silver - July 18, 2013 at 6:37 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 6:38 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Silver - July 18, 2013 at 6:41 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 6:46 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 7:14 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Esquilax - July 18, 2013 at 7:45 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Silver - July 18, 2013 at 3:28 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 8:10 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by The Reality Salesman - July 18, 2013 at 8:15 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Silver - July 18, 2013 at 3:24 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by pineapplebunnybounce - July 18, 2013 at 8:54 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 8:17 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by The Reality Salesman - July 18, 2013 at 8:36 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 9:45 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by The Reality Salesman - July 18, 2013 at 10:26 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Drich - July 18, 2013 at 11:28 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 11:26 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by The Reality Salesman - July 18, 2013 at 11:55 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Drich - July 18, 2013 at 1:51 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by The Reality Salesman - July 18, 2013 at 2:15 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by The Reality Salesman - July 18, 2013 at 12:19 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 12:11 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 12:26 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by The Reality Salesman - July 18, 2013 at 12:33 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 5:38 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by The Reality Salesman - July 18, 2013 at 7:18 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 7:58 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by The Reality Salesman - July 18, 2013 at 9:18 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Bad Writer - July 19, 2013 at 12:50 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 19, 2013 at 2:23 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Minimalist - July 18, 2013 at 12:55 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by MindForgedManacle - July 18, 2013 at 2:56 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Minimalist - July 18, 2013 at 3:25 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Minimalist - July 18, 2013 at 3:48 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Faith No More - July 18, 2013 at 3:51 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by The Reality Salesman - July 18, 2013 at 4:09 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 18, 2013 at 10:02 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by The Reality Salesman - July 19, 2013 at 7:16 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by The Reality Salesman - July 18, 2013 at 10:18 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Drich - July 18, 2013 at 10:42 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by MindForgedManacle - July 18, 2013 at 10:56 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Drich - July 19, 2013 at 12:11 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by MindForgedManacle - July 19, 2013 at 4:05 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 19, 2013 at 8:42 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by The Reality Salesman - July 19, 2013 at 10:33 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by wandering soul - July 19, 2013 at 11:10 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Minimalist - July 19, 2013 at 11:27 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by wandering soul - July 19, 2013 at 11:59 am
RE: Punished for Babel? - by christcahinkilla - July 19, 2013 at 12:17 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Godschild - July 19, 2013 at 12:32 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 19, 2013 at 12:19 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Chas - July 19, 2013 at 3:11 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by fr0d0 - July 19, 2013 at 5:45 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Silver - July 19, 2013 at 4:38 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Bad Writer - July 19, 2013 at 5:38 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by christcahinkilla - July 19, 2013 at 1:18 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Godschild - July 19, 2013 at 3:17 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Chas - July 19, 2013 at 4:54 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by christcahinkilla - July 19, 2013 at 4:54 pm
RE: Punished for Babel? - by Minimalist - July 19, 2013 at 6:28 pm

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