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My views on gay mariage
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RE: My views on gay mariage
(July 19, 2013 at 9:58 am)Psykhronic Wrote: Gays can adopt. Lesbians can use in-vitro fertilization. There is nothing special about straight couples. I fail to see how a mother-father situation is an ideal.

Straights may also marry for financial reasons. Gays may want to marry so both can have guardianship of an adopted child, which would be related to family matters, no?

I believe these are not covered by whatever I defined to be the family that should arise from a marriage. Gays should not adopt. Neither should lesbians be allowed to keep children.
A mother-father situation is ideal, since its the only way to create children. It is the "norm", it is what is engraved into our way of thinking when thinking of a family, you see. It has been so ever since the creation of the concept of family and marriage.

And as I have said, children can grow up in any way, not to mention without having anyone to call "parents". But growing up in the right and socially beneficial way, is for them to have a traditional family, to have a mother and a father, as for them to do the same later on, have a family, with a mother, father, and children.
You on the other hand seek to plant the seeds of confusion and of decay into the family insitution, by proxy, into marriage.
Since I don't live in America, it's not really my place to say to you what to do, or what not to do, but it is my honest opinion that giving gays the legal right to marry will hurt the institution.

And might I add, that I've heard from the people that support gay marriage that they actually believe that gays are more deserving of the institution, while they blame heterosexuals for hurting the institution, they also seem to defend everything that the institution of marriage is against, meaning, children conceived outside of marriage, single-parenting, and cohabitation of couples without marriage, at least for heterosexuals.
I know that I've argued here for pages with people that told me that a marriage is not required for a family, or that my notion of a family, that is, the core family structure, a husband, wife and children, is outdated, although I'm not really sure how they actually claim this.
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My views on gay mariage - by MeasH - August 27, 2012 at 4:57 pm
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RE: My views on gay mariage - by Psykhronic - July 19, 2013 at 7:37 am
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RE: My views on gay mariage - by Psykhronic - July 20, 2013 at 9:03 am
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RE: My views on gay mariage - by kılıç_mehmet - July 21, 2013 at 12:02 pm
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