Quote:This idea falls apart in numerous ways: the first is that we don't have the same reaction to, say, infertile people, so this clearly has nothing to do with reproduction. We don't shun people that simply don't want kids, so... hey.
Well, they are however acting in the way we believe that things are ought to happen. A man and a woman. Not anything else.
I've already discussed the prospect of infertile people and "those who don't want kids" a few pages back, friend. Infertile as they may be, they still conform to the norms of more intimate human relations.
Quote:Way to poison the well, without ever having to furnish evidence for your ideas.I am not poisoning the well, simply saying that humans have an innate disapproval of things, and I do see that they do so for homosexuality aswell. And as for "without evidence" I'd say that history proves otherwise. People have an innate dislike for homosexuality as they do for many other things. I don't know why this is so hard to accept.
Quote:And your proof that homosexuality is deviant, in the face of the numerous natural examples of it?And it isn't, you say? If there was somewhat of a 50:50 ratio, I probably would not have said that.
Indeed, the reproductive organs of the two sexes obviously speak for themselves, that the norm is, that a man and woman ought to have intimate relations with eachother, rather than their own sex. IF they feel an urge to do so, that means that there is something wrong with that person.
It is a deviation from what we perceive as the norm. No matter how much you tell people otherwise, they'll still view the heterosexual relation as normal, and other as abnormal. Obviously due to reasons that they actually result in reproduction, something that is vital for our survival.
Quote:Because everything that happens for a significant length of time is right, yeah?
Well, those that have changed, have changed already. But why is it that this one still remains? Do you really think it has nothing to do with what is actually the normal thing to do?
And I stress the word "normal". Homosexuality is something natural, but not everything that is natural is a good thing. For example, many gene defects that are not caused by external factors such as radiation or exposure to another mutagen are considered to be "natural" though they are for the most part, not normal. Similarly, homosexuality, another defect, is not normal, and therefore, not well received by the public.
Üze Tengri basmasar, asra Yir telinmeser, Türük bodun ilingin törüngin kim artatı udaçı erti?