(July 25, 2013 at 1:56 am)genkaus Wrote:(July 24, 2013 at 7:59 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: If chaos and anarchy is your thought of what it means to be civilized, by all means. I generally pick order and restraint as the basis for civilization.
It is a sign of order and restraint when the dissident can speak freely. If he is killed for his words by the mobs, its a sign of chaos and anarchy. If you truly do choose order and restraint, then you wouldn't react physically to verbal insults.
(July 24, 2013 at 7:59 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Words really don't count here. I don't know you, you don't know me. We do not look into eachother's eyes, we do not see eachother's faces, so insulting me right here will simply cause me to end the conversation because I can do that here. Though I cannot end the conversation in real life situations.
Yes, you can.
(July 24, 2013 at 7:59 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: I have something that I call pride and self-respect. When someone insults me, he has to pay a price, for I am no dog that you can spit on that will walk away after that.
That attitude is indicative of hollow pride and absent self-respect. If your pride and self-respect can be damaged by someone else's words and you need to defend it by any means necessary, then you really need to re-evaluate the grounds it is built on. Either the insult given to you is true, in which case it'll hurt your pride because it deserved to be hurt or it is a lie, in which case it won't bother you. The more uncertain you are of your own pride and self-respect, the more vigorously you'll fight to defend it.
And what is it with you and dogs? What did they ever do to you that you are always talking about being treated like one?
Obviously, he/she/it treats animals poorly. Why would spit and kick a dog? Did the dog attack you?
Pride can and have started wars, and for what? Vanity! Most Muslims are so insecure of their vanity, and how they appear to other Muslims. That is why you have force marriages, honor killings, and so on. They treat outsiders like crap, and it suppose to be peaceful. The competition causes so many issues. The belief that god is on your side, because you are fortunate to have inherited wealth is sad and pathetic.
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