The Golden Rule ? Sense or Bullshit?

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[quote][quote="Genkaus"]That is one of the points I've been trying to make. The golden rule does not predict reciprocation. It does not require you to act with any such expectation. Consider Red Celt's "pregnant woman in the bus" example. In that case, you are acting according to the golden rule without there being even the possibility of reciprocation. Reciprocation, I would argue, is a feature of the trade rule - where you give something and expect something in return. [/quote] Yes I agree the GR does not give anybody anything else but a subjective warm and fuzzy feeling. In reality things are rather chaotic and not even restricted or limited by application of law enforcement. You still get criminals or should we say people who disobey the law even though they subjectively act according to the GR.

The GR is a Maxim and without value unless their is an universally accepted intent of good moral action following the idea that results in a law.

Generally the idea of producing moral codes and laws according to the will of either a leader or the collective is only one way of looking at ethics.

The question is weather moral codes and laws can be produced that are not based on the will (subjective) of people but rather on scientific fact (objective) which would then rule out the GR?