(July 25, 2013 at 8:35 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: I don't, but I certainly can, and they really won't object, other than perhaps fighting back if I treat them a bit too rough.
Try experimentally verifying it.
(July 25, 2013 at 8:35 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: And well, I really have no idea what you're talking about. In Turkish society, there are no forced marriages, or honour killings, other than the case in which the honour of two men is under question, in which case, it is for men to decide.
If its left to the two men to decide, then its still barbaric.
(July 25, 2013 at 8:35 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Besides, I don't know how one can be "insecure of one's vanity", while vanity means that one is simply too secure about oneself. I don't see this among too many muslims, as I feel that many muslims are today insecure, which is the reason that they are losing. If they had any shred of pride left, they(by which I mean muslims like the rich Arabs) would shed the shackles of the west, and fight. Yet as again, it is up to us, the Turks to save the pride of the muslims, as we have done before.
That's where you are wrong. Again. Pride can be a sign of high self-esteem, but isn't so necessarily. Especially when it comes to this aggressive display you are guilty of. Take a look at this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride
Wikipedia Wrote:Hubris and group pride
Hubris itself is associated with more intra-individual negative outcomes and is commonly related to expressions of aggression and hostility (Tangney, 1999). As one might expect, Hubris is not necessarily associated with high self-esteem but with highly fluctuating or variable self-esteem. Excessive feelings of hubris have a tendency to create conflict and sometimes terminating close relationships, which has led it to be understood as one of the few emotions without any clear positive or adaptive functions (Rhodwalt, et al.). Several studies by UC Davis psychologist Cynthia Picket, have shown that groups that boast, gloat or denigrate others tend to have low social status or be vulnerable to threats from other groups.[19] Claiming that "hubristic, pompous displays of group pride might actually be a sign of group insecurity as opposed to a sign of strength," she believes that those that express pride by humbly focusing on members' efforts and hard work tend to have high social standing in both the public and personal eyes.
You happen to fit the criteria perfectly.
(July 25, 2013 at 8:35 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Besides, I don't think you've come to have a taste of our famous hospitality. We would feed and clothe you, and give you a place to stay even if you were an outsider. Though being an outsider, you obviously do not appreciate our hospitality, as you're foreign to the concept in your own country. Best you stay away from places you don't understand. Some, who are as you, have come here, and have forgotten their place as guests and have acted in ways as though as they are masters of the place, desecrating our flags and national symbols, and they have suffered the consequences. Those who have respected us, on the other hand, have been treated in the best way we can treat a person, more so than our own, as we value guests in our house. But we will not stand for troublemakers!
That's actually quite a horrible way of treating your guests, especially given your idea of what it means to "respect" you.
