Being Angry: 101

[Esquilax]

You really need to read the Bible, you are continually screwing up, God loves everyone regardless of what they do, He loves you so much that when one chooses hell He gives them what they choose. He does this even though He would rather have you living in heaven. He forgoes His desire so that you can have your desire. Like a loving parent forgoes things they want, to give their children what they want, both instances are loving.

Okay, let me see if I can't clear this up for you: in the bounds of your theology, can a person choose to go to neither heaven nor hell? Could I, say, elect to just die? Be reincarnated? Haunt the earth?

Or is it a binary choice: heaven or hell, nothing else?

Because, and this is the point, so pay real close attention: not choosing to worship god does not mean that one has chosen hell. Nobody wants to go to hell. Not choosing to worship god merely means that one has chosen not to worship god: the carrot of heaven and the stick of hell are attendant concepts added on without our choice, and therefore there's nothing loving or respectful of free will in condemning someone to one or the other, when the choice we're given is forced upon us between options we might not want to get at all.

Or, to put it another way, you don't worship god just to get into heaven, do you? You believe it's the right thing to do, and you do it out of a sense of obligation or loyalty or what have you, not just because of the reward? If so, then the path you've chosen has as little to do with its eventual outcome as the atheist's.

There's no choice here, just a pair of sluices we've been forced down regardless of our actual desires. To phrase it as a conscious choice is just a dishonest tactic to make you feel better, and as a happy corollary, so very self righteous.