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Religion and pleasure
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RE: Religion and pleasure
Quote:some still exchange it for greater sexual freedom and less responsibilities, again, with the same reasoning. I'm here for a limited amount of time, why really bother to spend my time on someone else, when I can spend it on myself.

genkaus Wrote:It is only when you love yourself that you'd understand that your need for happiness goes beyond mere sensuality. It is upon loving oneself that one realizes that his dignity, development and achievement cannot and should not be compromised.

Back when I was a theist (actually, in my final phase of theism, a sort of christian pantheism) I once thought and wrote that since our view of the world is (by necessity) centered on ourselves, everything we do is mainly for ourselves. Yet in living our own lives we are presented with two opportunities: one is living without caring about others, the other is living while caring about others. Even then, there are plenty of combinations of the two opportunities, so I can care for my nation but not for others etc. . Of course now, as an atheist, I think that we as humans should care for the greater good of our own species, and in fact I live my life and I sacrifice the small pleasures I could have now to make something good for humanity in the future, but I still think that we have those two opportunities in the way we live our lives and that the limelight of our life is always centered on ourselves - that is, our actions, not the others'.

Quote:What sort of a meaning do you have on your own? You're but a single number, if you'd die now, the world wouldn't go under, so what sort of a meaning do you think you possess?
Quote:You live your life according to yourself, which is, in my opinion, nothing.

Hegel, Hegel, HEGEL!
ALL YOUR IMPORTANCE ARE BELONG TO US!
Come on boy, how many people are out there whose life, lived according to themselves, was so important to society? Who tells you you are not speaking to one of them or to one that can become one of them in the future? Everyone has the right to be important for mankind. Everyone. And you don't live your life impersonating society, you live your life impersonating your fucking self. So try to be good at that and don't get bent on following rules someone else imposed on you.

This does not necessarily mean hedonism, it means pulling that stick out of your arse.
"Every luxury has a deep price. Every indulgence, a cosmic cost. Each fiber of pleasure you experience causes equivalent pain somewhere else. This is the first law of emodynamics [sic]. Joy can be neither created nor destroyed. The balance of happiness is constant.

Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.

Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.

Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.

Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."
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Religion and pleasure - by Lucanus - July 27, 2013 at 1:17 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by max-greece - July 27, 2013 at 1:36 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by genkaus - July 27, 2013 at 1:39 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Cato - July 27, 2013 at 1:47 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Michael Schubert - July 27, 2013 at 2:16 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Kayenneh - July 27, 2013 at 2:31 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Godschild - July 27, 2013 at 3:06 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by littleendian - July 27, 2013 at 3:27 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Godschild - July 29, 2013 at 4:28 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Doubting Thomas - July 29, 2013 at 5:10 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by genkaus - July 29, 2013 at 11:38 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Godschild - July 30, 2013 at 1:46 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Foxaèr - July 27, 2013 at 3:15 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Kayenneh - July 27, 2013 at 6:19 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Consilius - July 27, 2013 at 7:16 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by kılıç_mehmet - July 27, 2013 at 8:16 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Esquilax - July 27, 2013 at 8:52 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by genkaus - July 27, 2013 at 10:40 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by frankiej - July 29, 2013 at 4:35 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Walking Void - July 27, 2013 at 10:35 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Faith No More - July 27, 2013 at 11:10 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by kılıç_mehmet - July 27, 2013 at 11:40 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Esquilax - July 27, 2013 at 12:33 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Neo-Scholastic - July 27, 2013 at 11:50 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by genkaus - July 27, 2013 at 12:01 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by kılıç_mehmet - July 27, 2013 at 12:10 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by genkaus - July 27, 2013 at 12:41 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Angrboda - July 27, 2013 at 12:36 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by genkaus - July 27, 2013 at 1:11 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Lucanus - July 27, 2013 at 1:28 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Lucanus - July 27, 2013 at 12:49 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Godschild - July 27, 2013 at 3:34 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by genkaus - July 27, 2013 at 3:50 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Godschild - July 28, 2013 at 7:57 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by genkaus - July 29, 2013 at 1:09 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Gilgamesh - July 27, 2013 at 3:42 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Kayenneh - July 29, 2013 at 2:53 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Esquilax - July 29, 2013 at 7:08 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Kayenneh - July 29, 2013 at 10:34 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Tonus - July 29, 2013 at 11:03 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Doubting Thomas - July 29, 2013 at 12:38 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by freedomfromforum - July 29, 2013 at 4:58 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Angrboda - July 29, 2013 at 5:31 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Doubting Thomas - July 29, 2013 at 5:57 pm
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Lucanus - July 31, 2013 at 11:31 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Godschild - July 31, 2013 at 11:32 pm
R: Religion and pleasure - by Lucanus - August 1, 2013 at 3:36 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Godschild - August 1, 2013 at 4:55 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Faith No More - August 1, 2013 at 8:28 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Esquilax - August 1, 2013 at 8:46 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Lucanus - August 1, 2013 at 4:58 am
RE: Religion and pleasure - by Faith No More - August 1, 2013 at 8:51 am

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