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Free will Argument against Divine Providence

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Free will Argument against Divine Providence
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RE: Free will Argument against Divine Providence
July 29, 2013 at 2:35 pm
(July 28, 2013 at 10:39 am)HalcyonicTrust Wrote: They have ultimate choice in a non-random self-determined way? I think not.

What does "ultimate choice" even mean?

(July 28, 2013 at 10:39 am)HalcyonicTrust Wrote: Either:

1.

We are ultimately fully unconsciously determined.

or

2. We are ultimately entirely undetermined.

False dichotomy.


(July 28, 2013 at 10:39 am)HalcyonicTrust Wrote: Either way there is no ultimate self-determination, ultimate moral responsibility or so called "free will".

That's only true if "free-will" is somehow contingent upon "ultimate self-determination" - whatever that means.
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RE: Free will Argument against Divine Providence - by genkaus - July 29, 2013 at 2:35 pm

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