(July 31, 2013 at 3:28 pm)Drich Wrote:(July 31, 2013 at 11:57 am)Tonus Wrote: Why would I need to ask god to provide me with what he wants for me?Because not everyone wants what God wants for them.
The Bible is too much Babble to know what God wants for anyone. Prayer is a waste just because of this simple fact.
(July 31, 2013 at 3:28 pm)Drich Wrote:Quote:What you are describing is that god wants something for me, knows what it is, and knows it will be beneficial for me. But he won't give it to me unless I ask?Yes. Why? because the primary ingredient in what God wants for you contains a large dose of humility. Not the kind that is forced onto people, but the kind that willing A/S/K for it.
Looks like all those humble folk out in India and China are going to Hell because they didn't know they were supposed to ask something of their creator. Your God is a Dick. If he knew what was best for them he'd figure out a way to send them the message. If he does, then that means it wasn't by prayer, which renders prayer, once again, ineffectual and unnecessary in this instance.
(July 31, 2013 at 3:28 pm)Drich Wrote: ...God did not give an absolute or difinitive version of Christianity.
Then you have no way of knowing whether or not you're right. You also, therefore, have no reason to preach to anyone if you aren't even sure your story is right.
(July 31, 2013 at 3:28 pm)Drich Wrote: So why wasn't christianity constructed the same way [as Judaism]? Look at how Jesus railed against the Jewish leadership of the day, how he pointed out over and over that thier worship was extreamly mechanical and did not include any effort in up holding the spirit of the law.
Let's see (flips through the NT). Okay, so in this story book, I see that a few men wrote about a man named Jesus, and that a few elements from the story was his disdain for the Pharisees and the Sadducees. However, this character also had very clear objectives, laws, and teachings. He never said anything such as "Go forth and...er...kinda follow what I said. Ya dig?" He had very detailed methods on how his disciples would preach his words, he had very clear morals that were outlined, such as how the Law of Moses would be changed, and his doctrines were even very clearly defined, such as how a person should enter into Heaven and how they should pray. If you are a Christian, Drich, then you're a bad one, and you are probably going to Jesus' Hell, unless he finds a way to preach the truth to you in the Spirit Prison.
(July 31, 2013 at 3:28 pm)Drich Wrote: If Christ is at the center of your worship, no one's worship is right nor is it wrong.
Then, by your admission, Mormons, Catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses, 7th Day Adventists, Moonies, and many more strange forms of your Christianity are going to your version of Heaven since they hold Christ as the central figure of their worship. Am I right? No? What the fuck, Drich?
(July 31, 2013 at 3:28 pm)Drich Wrote:Quote: Maybe I'm just picky, but I think a guide book from a supreme and wondrous creator should be so amazing that reading even just parts of it would knock our socks off, so that we'd want to read all of it over and over and learn the secrets of the universe (or whatever it is that the supreme creator wants it to tell us).Which is why I am in absolute awe over it. Because it is all of that and a box of thin mints.
So then why aren't you in awe over the Book of Mormon or Al-Quran? The Baghavad Gita is pretty amazing, and so is the Epic of Gilgamesh. Greek Mythology is so rich in details and the interactions between Gods and men are more than any mortal could hope for!
Yes, it was pretty Awe-Inspiring when Jesus rubbed spit and clay on that Blind man's eyes to make him see again. My stomach did flips of joy...nope, just nausea, actually.
(July 31, 2013 at 3:28 pm)Drich Wrote: Biblical Christianity is not rule based...
Ahem...You are a bad Christian!!!!
(July 31, 2013 at 3:28 pm)Drich Wrote: It takes an hour of honest question asking to find the direction you need to find God. Some a little more some a little less. We (most of us) have been given between 70 and 90 years to take an hour and honestly look.. Whether you do or not is between you and God.
After about 3 hours of really trying, I figured it was all actually just between me and nothing. How interesting that you think people who legitimately try to seek answers from God are just not trying hard enough when they come back empty-handed. You heard voices in your head and they didn't, and you look down on them? I think there's something very wrong with this picture. The question is not, "How hard did you try?" The real question (and it should be posed to you) is "Why aren't you in a straight jacket, ya loon?"
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