(August 2, 2013 at 3:08 am)genkaus Wrote:(August 2, 2013 at 12:10 am)Godschild Wrote: There is a difference in Christian prayer and the others you mention, some of those do depend on magic, what ever that may be. With Christians we ask God to determine what's best or at least we should, and if He decides in our favor then we have unleashed the same power that created the universe. In actuality Christians need to remember that we change nothing, changes come from the grace of God and the change can only happen if the request is not against God's ultimate will.
Not seeing any difference at all. That''s precisely what the "explanation" of all those other prayers is going to be if you ask the ones doing it.
Truth doesn't change.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.