(August 2, 2013 at 4:36 am)missluckie26 Wrote: Rape should be illegal because it's immoral (in your humble opinion), but it's illegal because it's a trespass on personal liberties by one entity on another (in our society).
…so why should people not be allowed to trespass on the personal liberties of another person? Are you really going to assert that rape is not immoral?
Quote: Excluding the fact that you feel it is immoral, abortion is legal and many people don't feel the same way you do. What's your argument other than immorality?
I do not need one, morality transcends all people. Do not make the mistake of thinking that simply because you believe in moral subjectivism that it’s therefore the way things are.
Quote: People are going to have abortions.
Yup, and men are going to rape women, that still doesn’t change my opinion on the immorality and illegality of rape.
Quote: So long as people are able to get pregnant and don't want to be, that will happen. And don't kid yourself, your daughter might just want to hide the fact she got pregnant from you so badly because of her religious upbringing, that she goes to one of these unaccredited, un-monitored, unsanctioned small office practices, and bleed out to death on the table. Would it not be better for her to have gone to the doctor, and gotten the medical staff to do what she would have done unsafely?
You keep trying to use this argument, even though I have already reduced it to absurdity. I’ll show you again, does your argument still apply when worded this way?...
“So long as people are able to have sex and don't want it to be consensual, rapes will happen. And don't kid yourself, your son might just want to hide the fact that he wants to rape a girl he knows from you so badly because of his religious upbringing, that he goes to one of these unaccredited, un-monitored, unsanctioned dark alleys, and is shot by the girl while attempting to rape her and bleeds out to death on the alley pavement. Would it not be better for him to have gone to an environment where he can rape women safely and without the risk of being shot?”
Same argument! Yet you will not accept its conclusions.
Quote: Legal or not, there's girls that will do anything they need to, and people that will accommodate them.
Yup, and death is a risk they’ll have to take in order to murder their children.
Quote: Sitting in the corner yelling, "Shouldn't have gotten an abortion then, B!" Isn't going to do a damn thing to help this issue in our society. Addressing it has gotten us this far. What's your (proactive) alternative?
“Sitting in the corner yelling, "Shouldn't have tried to rape that girl then B!" Isn't going to do a damn thing to help this issue in our society.”
You see how ridiculous your argument is? Murder, Rape, Infanticide and Abortion should all be illegal, three of them are, we’re just working on getting the other one there and we’re making progress.
