Did They Not Pray Hard Enough

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A/S/K=Ask Seek Knock, ask=ask.

So if you do not have the mindset to A/S/K then you should just ask for it.

So if you do not have the mindset to ask, seek, and knock, you should... ask? I'm not seeing how the revised question is any different.

Red Herring. This is not the situation I presented.

One red herring deserves another.

No. In Luke 11 you were given directions on where to meet God. instead you are running the school yard trying to figure out where he is hiding, when all the while the invite you have that gives you a direct road map is being ingored.

"Ask, seek, and knock" is not a direct road map. At best, it's a general suggestion that leaves the specifics to the listener... who is then admonished that he didn't do it right if it doesn't work. It's almost as if god doesn't want many people to be saved.

We are told by the time we are able to see this for ourselves it will be too late.

Which is just bizarre. After centuries of interacting directly with mankind, god decides to hide in his bedroom. He does this knowing that mankind had a hard enough time believing in him when he was known to them. It's almost as if he doesn't want many people to be saved.

Then you may want to reconsider this assumption. Perhaps it has nothing to do with the book.

Knowledge of Christ has nothing to do with the only book that gives knowledge of Christ, because the book may not be reliable? It's almost as if god doesn't want many people to be saved.

Freedom TO Sin is no freedom at all. Freedom From sin and the law is true freedom.

That's a curious statement. Do you consider yourself free from sin and the law? Because if not, then the only difference between us is that I enjoy one additional freedom.

Because you have not asked for specifics.

Well, how does a person A/S/K, specifically?

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Prayer transcends: time, space and understanding. You won't know just what (far reaching) effect prayers have until we meet God.

I, and my friends & family have prayed for many, MANY things, and can't think of [one time] they weren't answered in "some way". Not ONE!

God doesn't work in our time. He works in His.

This kind of thinking acts as a sort of confirmation bias for believers. I felt this way about prayer as well, when I was a believer. And it was reinforced by so many others who thought the same way.

We would pray to god for help, or guidance, or whatever it was that we felt we needed. If we got exactly what we asked for, it was proof that god answered our prayer. If we got something different but things seemed to work out, it was even more concrete proof that god answered our prayer, because he knew the solution better than we could. If we got something different and things did not work out, then it was proof that god answered prayers, and that he was showing us that we had asked for the wrong thing or asked for the wrong reasons, and it was time to give up and go in another direction.

You could flip a coin or roll a pair of dice and use that as god's guidance, and it would work the same way if you applied the above approach to it.