(August 3, 2013 at 1:24 am)freedomfromfallacy Wrote:(August 3, 2013 at 12:20 am)Godschild Wrote: Today's new moral standard at work, two wrongs make a right. What's up with that, do you think by feeding this guy on occasion and talked to him a few times you did something earth shattering. There are Christian organizations that feed, cloth and shelter the homeless everyday, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year for years on end. They spend time with these people talking to them and listening to their stories every day, and never throw them a bone on a string, they love them, these people serve with little to no pay and why because they have a love for these people. Will you help this man like this every day for the next ten years, or do you find that your bone trick is the more pleasing way for you. Just remember you're not that far away from his shoes, you might think you're fine, but so have many of the homeless before they became homeless.
Typical theist - they think they know all about me and lump me into a disposable group that is tossed into eternal fire... some love you have there. For the record, I was once homeless for 18 months (I lived on the street and had a JOB the whole time, which is how I got beyond that situation). I fed this bum from my own table many times and I have also clothed him - all without being told to do so by some god. I was not baiting him any more than your (god) baits it's followers into doing whatever it demands (which apparently differs among christian groups). I was mirroring christian theology. You, like most brainwashed theists miss the point with stunning consistency.
You should have known better than to treat him the way you did, seeing you know the situation. I was not criticizing what you had done, and believe it to be a good thing, I was criticizing your bone and string deal. You believe what God is doing is wrong and that gives you the right to do wrong to a fellow human, two wrongs do not make a right, even when the first is an illusion on your part.
I say good for you, pulling yourself up, but how do you know that a poor homeless person wasn't praying for you and God's grace was applied to your life? Just because you do not believe He is real doesn't make it so.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.