Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: August 30, 2026, 3:22 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Free will Argument against Divine Providence
#54
RE: Free will Argument against Divine Providence
Dear Genakus, my first post was an objection to the idea that libertarian free will is possible.

Your objection to my objection was that that was merely my own interpretation of things.

That should be obvious though, I can only interpret things my way, or I wouldn't be me.

I am merely trying to deal with what I consider to be the real issue of free will - the idea that we can somehow have ultimate responsibility of action and ultimate moral responsibility therefore, without determinism. With chance you don't get that. So that interpretation, in my opinion, is a petty and futile interpretation and a waste of time. Many many people really do believe in this world that people, ultimately, when it really comes down to it, have responsibility of action and therefore ultimate responsibility of their own moral action too. This is incorrect.

That is the real issue. I am not interested in what I consider to be your futility and pettiness.

Yours,

HT

(May the Halcyon be with you on and on and on).
Reply



Messages In This Thread
RE: Free will Argument against Divine Providence - by Edwardo Piet - August 7, 2013 at 2:15 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  An Argument Against Determinism Disagreeable 32 5425 March 13, 2026 at 9:11 pm
Last Post: Disagreeable
  The Kalam Cosmological Argument Disagreeable 123 31470 December 15, 2024 at 6:11 pm
Last Post: BrianSoddingBoru4
  The classic ontological argument Modern Atheism 20 5057 October 3, 2024 at 12:45 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  The modal ontological argument for God Disagreeable 29 7499 August 10, 2024 at 8:57 pm
Last Post: MetisX
  Do you believe in free will? Disagreeable 37 8286 August 4, 2024 at 7:15 am
Last Post: Disagreeable
  The argument from degree LinuxGal 9 2667 January 1, 2023 at 12:14 am
Last Post: The Architect Of Fate
  Understanding the rudiment has much to give helps free that mind for further work. highdimensionman 16 4167 May 24, 2022 at 6:31 am
Last Post: highdimensionman
  Veridican Argument for the Existence of God The Veridican 14 5401 January 16, 2022 at 4:48 pm
Last Post: brewer
  Free Will Debate Alan V 82 21903 November 27, 2021 at 7:08 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  A 'proof' of God's existence - free will mrj 54 17156 August 9, 2020 at 10:25 am
Last Post: Sal



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)