Firstly, I come from religious family.
And since 2 years, I never go to church again...because
(1)I think it will not change our (my) live, even if you pray and strictly obey church law.
(2)After that, I even begin thinking that religion is another source to feel better when bad things happen.
(3)And I think that although I understand God concept, I think it is irrational for me to accept it today.
Many weeks I have debate with my parents and friends that are believer.
They want me to believe again, but It is hard for me to accept it.
We debate about (1)pray, (2)Jesus, (3)Jesus's item heritage, (4)bible, (5)evolution...
I have not searched all the post in this group.
So, If there is another similiar topics/threads, I am Sorry...
(1) I believe there is no result in praying someone, although there is someone that healed by it. It is placebo effect.
There is a research in praying, one group is prayed and another is not.
Each group doesn't know if they are experiment's subject and they also dont know if they are prayed by prayer group.
The result is there is no different in each subject.
However, anyone does not believe it. And demand paper of that research paper. They don't want one paper but as much as I can search.
Do you have accountable research papers?
And others papers topic about religion? like Islamic fasting month that give bad result to body, scientific prove about probability of miracle happen in church is less than hospital.
(2) Talk about Jesus...
Someone in this Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9yvm8h8GnY)
said that there is many Jesus in his time, I would like to watch a documentary video about it.
Do you have youtube link about it...
Also, my friends keep believe that Jesus is exist because he has seen Jesus's nail and bloody torch wood crown in Israel Museum.
I have seen video about it, and it is a hoax, because time carbon tells that it is come from 600M, and Jesus is born 2000 years ago.
My friend insist that it is scientific proven it is real.
I have tried to seach the video, but I could not find it.
Do you have a link of it?
(3) Talk about the Bible...
Since I was child, I have seen many contradict in Bible.
The bible like saying that we should love our enemy but God doesnt.
I have read an article about contradicting story in Bible,
like this website...
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/page/b...radictions
Do you have others good reference?
I want to compile it...
(4) About evolution..
I think that we are live in this Earth because we are lucky, just that.
However, my friend says that it is a give from God.
(It is easy to tell it is a give, if you come from rich family)
How to prove that evolution is exist and we are just lucky that we live in Earth?
I think, even though I will have accountable source, they will not accept it.
I want to make a little research for myself, and I am thinking to make a thread about scientific study about religion if no one has made it.
Sorry for long post.
Potato...
And since 2 years, I never go to church again...because
(1)I think it will not change our (my) live, even if you pray and strictly obey church law.
(2)After that, I even begin thinking that religion is another source to feel better when bad things happen.
(3)And I think that although I understand God concept, I think it is irrational for me to accept it today.
Many weeks I have debate with my parents and friends that are believer.
They want me to believe again, but It is hard for me to accept it.
We debate about (1)pray, (2)Jesus, (3)Jesus's item heritage, (4)bible, (5)evolution...
I have not searched all the post in this group.
So, If there is another similiar topics/threads, I am Sorry...
(1) I believe there is no result in praying someone, although there is someone that healed by it. It is placebo effect.
There is a research in praying, one group is prayed and another is not.
Each group doesn't know if they are experiment's subject and they also dont know if they are prayed by prayer group.
The result is there is no different in each subject.
However, anyone does not believe it. And demand paper of that research paper. They don't want one paper but as much as I can search.
Do you have accountable research papers?
And others papers topic about religion? like Islamic fasting month that give bad result to body, scientific prove about probability of miracle happen in church is less than hospital.
(2) Talk about Jesus...
Someone in this Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9yvm8h8GnY)
said that there is many Jesus in his time, I would like to watch a documentary video about it.
Do you have youtube link about it...
Also, my friends keep believe that Jesus is exist because he has seen Jesus's nail and bloody torch wood crown in Israel Museum.
I have seen video about it, and it is a hoax, because time carbon tells that it is come from 600M, and Jesus is born 2000 years ago.
My friend insist that it is scientific proven it is real.
I have tried to seach the video, but I could not find it.
Do you have a link of it?
(3) Talk about the Bible...
Since I was child, I have seen many contradict in Bible.
The bible like saying that we should love our enemy but God doesnt.
I have read an article about contradicting story in Bible,
like this website...
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/page/b...radictions
Do you have others good reference?
I want to compile it...
(4) About evolution..
I think that we are live in this Earth because we are lucky, just that.
However, my friend says that it is a give from God.
(It is easy to tell it is a give, if you come from rich family)
How to prove that evolution is exist and we are just lucky that we live in Earth?
I think, even though I will have accountable source, they will not accept it.
I want to make a little research for myself, and I am thinking to make a thread about scientific study about religion if no one has made it.
Sorry for long post.
Potato...
