RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
August 9, 2013 at 6:22 pm
(This post was last modified: August 9, 2013 at 6:46 pm by Chas.)
(August 9, 2013 at 6:02 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(August 9, 2013 at 5:37 pm)Chas Wrote: Objective evidence is evidence that can be independently understood by others, it is not internal.
Let's move those goal posts.
I have moved no goalposts.
Quote:Yes objective evidence is independently understood by others. You do know that Christians affirm each other's experiences right? So objectivity as you use it needs more refining.
No, you can agree that you think you experienced something similar, but you can't compare those experiences in any objective manner since they are entirely internal.
Quote:Subjective evidence is personal to the subject.
The basis to religion, is that the choice to live morally/ with interest in your personal gain to be the best you can be... has to be a choice. You cannot have proof that goodness triumphs, you must believe it.
Sans justice (God), your ability to achieve happiness is limited by your reality, which acknowledges unfairness.
The ONLY point to faith is the enrichment of life.
You make yet another unsupported assertion by equating justice and God.
And another by asserting that my ability to achieve happiness is limited.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
Science is not a subject, but a method.